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I wish that was the case, but it is not. You can verify this yourself as H1B salary data are publicly available http://h1bdata.info http://h1bdata.info. Take a

I wish that was the case, but it is not. You can verify this yourself as H1B salary data are publicly available http://h1bdata.info http://h1bdata.info. Take a look for example at Wayfair in Boston. Majority of their H1B Developers make around $50k-$70k. This is significantly less than the prevailing wages around Boston, so it is quite clear that they are using H1Bs as cheap labor source.

dahdum 9y ago
Wow - Juniper Networks got approved with $63,960 for "Software Engineer" in Sunnyvale just this year while LinkedIn is paying ~$125k for the same title.
- bduerst 9y ago
  That's probably because the website is only showing "base" pay. Juniper does performance packages that go well into six figures, which Linkedin might not do.
  - dominotw 9y ago
    In theory performance performance packages can be $0? makes no sense to approve h1b based on performance packages. Also, LinkedIn does give out performance bonuses.
    - bduerst 9y ago
      You can lookup the Juniper bonus packages on OFLC if you want (it's what this website data is, but more info). I just checked for sunnyvale engineers making 68k and their bonuses go up to 250k.
      - dahdum 9y ago
        Where is that info? Glassdoor has 61 reports of Software Engineer for Juniper with an average of $16k performance bonus on an average base salary of $123k. New H1B hires at ~$65k would end up with lower than that average wouldn't they?
      - dominotw 9y ago
        Thats besides the point. It doesn't matter what the actual bonuses are , point I was trying to make is that it doesn't make sense to approve H1B based on something uncertain like bonuses. Are you suggesting uscis " can lookup the Juniper bonus packages on OFLC " before approving h1b ?
bduerst 9y ago
Why don't you just link the query results? http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Wayfair+Llc&job=Software+Engineer&city=&year=2017 http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Wayfair+Llc&job=Software+En... Any while we're at it, why don't we pull the prevailing wage data? http://www.flcdatacenter.com/OesQuickResults.aspx?area=71654&code=15-1132&year=18&source=1 http://www.flcdatacenter.com/OesQuickResults.aspx?area=71654... Level 1 Software Engineers are paid on average $67k in that area, so by paying them $68k, Wayfair is still paying more than the average wage for U.S. citizens working the same position. Wayfair is not driving down wages.
- natoliniak 9y ago
  interesting. That is close to the salary I was starting with more than 10yrs ago...Either the wages have stagnated around Boston or that number seems low. Glassdoor reports ~$80k which is closer to what my current employer has been hiring at, thats why the Wayfair numbers seems low to me. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/boston-entry-level-software-engineer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,6_IM109_KO7,36.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/boston-entry-level-softwa...
  - bduerst 9y ago
    My guess is your experience is anecdotal and open to bias. Same with glassdoor, since it's self-submitted. The BLS's Occupational Employment Statistic's prevailing wage data is fairly exhaustive.

dahdum 9y ago

Wow - Juniper Networks got approved with $63,960 for "Software Engineer" in Sunnyvale just this year while LinkedIn is paying ~$125k for the same title.

bduerst 9y ago
That's probably because the website is only showing "base" pay. Juniper does performance packages that go well into six figures, which Linkedin might not do.
- dominotw 9y ago
  In theory performance performance packages can be $0? makes no sense to approve h1b based on performance packages. Also, LinkedIn does give out performance bonuses.
  - bduerst 9y ago
    You can lookup the Juniper bonus packages on OFLC if you want (it's what this website data is, but more info). I just checked for sunnyvale engineers making 68k and their bonuses go up to 250k.
    - dahdum 9y ago
      Where is that info? Glassdoor has 61 reports of Software Engineer for Juniper with an average of $16k performance bonus on an average base salary of $123k. New H1B hires at ~$65k would end up with lower than that average wouldn't they?
    - dominotw 9y ago
      Thats besides the point. It doesn't matter what the actual bonuses are , point I was trying to make is that it doesn't make sense to approve H1B based on something uncertain like bonuses. Are you suggesting uscis " can lookup the Juniper bonus packages on OFLC " before approving h1b ?

bduerst 9y ago

Why don't you just link the query results? http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Wayfair+Llc&job=Software+Engineer&city=&year=2017 http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Wayfair+Llc&job=Software+En... Any while we're at it, why don't we pull the prevailing wage data? http://www.flcdatacenter.com/OesQuickResults.aspx?area=71654&code=15-1132&year=18&source=1 http://www.flcdatacenter.com/OesQuickResults.aspx?area=71654... Level 1 Software Engineers are paid on average $67k in that area, so by paying them $68k, Wayfair is still paying more than the average wage for U.S. citizens working the same position. Wayfair is not driving down wages.

natoliniak 9y ago
interesting. That is close to the salary I was starting with more than 10yrs ago...Either the wages have stagnated around Boston or that number seems low. Glassdoor reports ~$80k which is closer to what my current employer has been hiring at, thats why the Wayfair numbers seems low to me. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/boston-entry-level-software-engineer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,6_IM109_KO7,36.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/boston-entry-level-softwa...
- bduerst 9y ago
  My guess is your experience is anecdotal and open to bias. Same with glassdoor, since it's self-submitted. The BLS's Occupational Employment Statistic's prevailing wage data is fairly exhaustive.