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There is no immorality around my position. We exist as a country to promote the welfare of our own people. I should expect any country to place its own citizens

There is no immorality around my position. We exist as a country to promote the welfare of our own people. I should expect any country to place its own citizens' interests above those of foreign nations. Moreover, countries are generally defined by their geographic locations. The actions of the people within them directly affect those around them. Local economies are affected by influxes of labor and depression of wages. A person's race is simply an attribute they possess; attempting to compare this to a nationality makes little sense in this case. Someone's race does not intrinsically affect the economy around them, whereas the wage they are paid will.

damnyou 9y ago
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for [our] children." There, fixed that for you. > A person's race is simply an attribute they possess; attempting to compare this to a nationality makes little sense in this case. Sounds great! Allow anyone who wants to be American to be American.
- andonisus 9y ago
  What are you on about? Are you able to have a discussion about this, or are you simply looking to discount any counter-arguments with feeble attempts at dog whistling?
  - damnyou 9y ago
    Fine, here's my position: Immigration restrictions are a version of "separate but equal" segregation that is somehow acceptable to talk about. Anyone who wants to do a job, can do it, and is willing to move to where the job is should be able to do it, regardless of where they were born or what papers they have. That they can't because a bunch of people have collectively decided to pull the ladder up behind them is unjust, unfair and immoral.
    - andonisus 9y ago
      What about the people who want to do the job, can do it, are willing to move to the job location, are American citizens, and are denied because they are being replaced by cheaper H1-B workers? These H1-B workers are not entitled to jobs in America. It is something we offer to benefit both them and our country as a whole. It becomes detrimental when these visas are extended at the expense of the American citizen who is being displaced.
      - damnyou 9y ago
        It's great for the foreign worker! Privileging citizens of your own country is no different from privileging members of your own race.

damnyou 9y ago

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for [our] children." There, fixed that for you. > A person's race is simply an attribute they possess; attempting to compare this to a nationality makes little sense in this case. Sounds great! Allow anyone who wants to be American to be American.

andonisus 9y ago
What are you on about? Are you able to have a discussion about this, or are you simply looking to discount any counter-arguments with feeble attempts at dog whistling?
- damnyou 9y ago
  Fine, here's my position: Immigration restrictions are a version of "separate but equal" segregation that is somehow acceptable to talk about. Anyone who wants to do a job, can do it, and is willing to move to where the job is should be able to do it, regardless of where they were born or what papers they have. That they can't because a bunch of people have collectively decided to pull the ladder up behind them is unjust, unfair and immoral.
  - andonisus 9y ago
    What about the people who want to do the job, can do it, are willing to move to the job location, are American citizens, and are denied because they are being replaced by cheaper H1-B workers? These H1-B workers are not entitled to jobs in America. It is something we offer to benefit both them and our country as a whole. It becomes detrimental when these visas are extended at the expense of the American citizen who is being displaced.
    - damnyou 9y ago
      It's great for the foreign worker! Privileging citizens of your own country is no different from privileging members of your own race.