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I would have expected someone working at Apple who should be getting paid a high salary and writing software that is used by millions of people to have huge pri

I would have expected someone working at Apple who should be getting paid a high salary and writing software that is used by millions of people to have huge pride in their work. This means testing what they deliver in isolation and on integrated builds. So either apple staff are under too much pressure that quality control has gone out the window or they have the wrong kind of people. For instance are they missing the type of people who are obsessive about detail.

qwefadf 9y ago
You must have never worked on a project with more than 10 people on it.
- planetjones 9y ago
  I have worked on a project with hundreds of people on it. But if I take the calculator example where you can’t add numbers together properly because of the animation lag, I doubt that more than one or two developers built that. Someone should have had the pride and passion to test that themselves, raise it and fix it. So either the organisation and culture is very bad at apple or the individuals don’t take enough responsibility. Maybe it’s both.
  - dingaling 9y ago
    > I doubt that more than one or two developers built that Indeed, and it no doubt passed all the unit tests and was marked as good to ship. But I suspect what they were lacking was an aggressive, adversarial QA specialist with the mindset of "how would a user break this in daily use".
    - altern8tif 9y ago
      That's really surprising considering that we've seen beta releases of iOS for quite a number of years now. Isn't the point of a beta release to make sure that the OS is battle-tested with users who would use it like they do in real life? Would have thought it might have covered most of the typical real-world use cases. Especially since it probably has one of the highest number of users/testers of any beta software programs.
pier25 9y ago
> So either apple staff are under too much pressure that quality control has gone out the window We will never know, but I'm guessing this is the reason.

qwefadf 9y ago

You must have never worked on a project with more than 10 people on it.

planetjones 9y ago
I have worked on a project with hundreds of people on it. But if I take the calculator example where you can’t add numbers together properly because of the animation lag, I doubt that more than one or two developers built that. Someone should have had the pride and passion to test that themselves, raise it and fix it. So either the organisation and culture is very bad at apple or the individuals don’t take enough responsibility. Maybe it’s both.
- dingaling 9y ago
  > I doubt that more than one or two developers built that Indeed, and it no doubt passed all the unit tests and was marked as good to ship. But I suspect what they were lacking was an aggressive, adversarial QA specialist with the mindset of "how would a user break this in daily use".
  - altern8tif 9y ago
    That's really surprising considering that we've seen beta releases of iOS for quite a number of years now. Isn't the point of a beta release to make sure that the OS is battle-tested with users who would use it like they do in real life? Would have thought it might have covered most of the typical real-world use cases. Especially since it probably has one of the highest number of users/testers of any beta software programs.

pier25 9y ago

> So either apple staff are under too much pressure that quality control has gone out the window We will never know, but I'm guessing this is the reason.