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> Trump has repeatedly called for a Canadian or Australian style skills-based immigration system to replace chain and quota-based immigration coupled with slas

by rrhd 9y ago

> Trump has repeatedly called for a Canadian or Australian style skills-based immigration system to replace chain and quota-based immigration coupled with slashing immigration in general.

dmix 9y ago
That's because 64% of people currently coming into the US get in because they are relatives or family of another person who was given a green card. Only 15% of people come in due to skill or a job. The bill would change the system to be more about skill/merit rather than the fact you are related by blood to someone who has skill. The reduction in numbers is a side effect of the current ratios of the existing system. So ideally they will boost the maximum number on the other end to increase the total number of skilled visas, instead of just cutting the relatives portion (as the bill proposed in August). To me that's the best of both worlds. It's possible it will may be tweaked as it goes through congress or it may have to wait for a future bill, but at least the basic framework is being laid out for a better system similar to Canada/Australia.
- rrhd 9y ago
  The bill he endorsed switches to merit based immigration and cuts the number of green cards given out in half.
  - dmix 9y ago
    That's why I said it's the ideal best of both worlds. Shifting the framework from a primarily relative-based one to skills-based, ala Canada/Australia, is a still a better system regardless. Plenty of republicans and democrats criticized the "50% reduction by 2028" projection when the original bill was announced a few months ago, so it's not entirely wishful thinking it may change in the future for the better.
- comicjk 9y ago
  Cutting legal immigration in hopes of a later bill that increases it is a fool's errand. This proposal already gives the lie to the Republican marketing on immigration - that they have nothing against legal immigration, and only want to cut the illegal kind. Who knows what they'll ask for next.

by rrhd 9y ago

> Trump has repeatedly called for a Canadian or Australian style skills-based immigration system to replace chain and quota-based immigration coupled with slashing immigration in general.

dmix 9y ago

That's because 64% of people currently coming into the US get in because they are relatives or family of another person who was given a green card. Only 15% of people come in due to skill or a job. The bill would change the system to be more about skill/merit rather than the fact you are related by blood to someone who has skill. The reduction in numbers is a side effect of the current ratios of the existing system. So ideally they will boost the maximum number on the other end to increase the total number of skilled visas, instead of just cutting the relatives portion (as the bill proposed in August). To me that's the best of both worlds. It's possible it will may be tweaked as it goes through congress or it may have to wait for a future bill, but at least the basic framework is being laid out for a better system similar to Canada/Australia.

rrhd 9y ago
The bill he endorsed switches to merit based immigration and cuts the number of green cards given out in half.
- dmix 9y ago
  That's why I said it's the ideal best of both worlds. Shifting the framework from a primarily relative-based one to skills-based, ala Canada/Australia, is a still a better system regardless. Plenty of republicans and democrats criticized the "50% reduction by 2028" projection when the original bill was announced a few months ago, so it's not entirely wishful thinking it may change in the future for the better.
comicjk 9y ago
Cutting legal immigration in hopes of a later bill that increases it is a fool's errand. This proposal already gives the lie to the Republican marketing on immigration - that they have nothing against legal immigration, and only want to cut the illegal kind. Who knows what they'll ask for next.