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"the US is lagging far behind every developed nation in education" I wouldn't say that for college level education. Why is then the US the top study abroad des

"the US is lagging far behind every developed nation in education" I wouldn't say that for college level education. Why is then the US the top study abroad destination in the world?

TylerE 9y ago
As with many things in the US, the top end is truly elite, for the small minority that can be accepted/afford it. But the average is mediocre at best.
- learc83 9y ago
  >But the average is mediocre at best. This just isn't true at all. Average state schools that are affordable to the vast majority of students through income based student loan repayments are far better than mediocre. The US has 1/3 of the top 500 ranked colleges in the world, and nearly 1/4 of the top 5000. http://www.webometrics.info/en/node/54 http://www.webometrics.info/en/node/54 There's a reason that international students flock to even low ranked state schools in the US.
  - komali2 9y ago
    This is my entire point - our schools are filling up with non-American students.
    - learc83 9y ago
      In 2015 they made up 4.8% of all undergraduate students. I wouldn't say that is filling up. http://graphics.wsj.com/international-students/ http://graphics.wsj.com/international-students/
rb2018 9y ago
Hollywood - best country marketing ever.
and0 9y ago
I can't research this at the moment but a couple obvious explanations: - The USA is massive compared to every first-world nation (in the West) in terms of size / population / schools. I'd be shocked if a place like Sweden were somehow the top, statistically. - I know a few people who came from India to study here because it put them on a fast track for a visa (or whatever they're using to work here after graduating). So they based it on post-grad opportunities, not the education itself.
- learc83 9y ago
  Just looking at CS, there are a few schools in India that are as good as any but the very best US school. But assuming you can't get into those schools, any middle ranked US state school is a better bet.

"the US is lagging far behind every developed nation in education" I wouldn't say that for college level education. Why is then the US the top study abroad destination in the world?

TylerE 9y ago

As with many things in the US, the top end is truly elite, for the small minority that can be accepted/afford it. But the average is mediocre at best.

learc83 9y ago
>But the average is mediocre at best. This just isn't true at all. Average state schools that are affordable to the vast majority of students through income based student loan repayments are far better than mediocre. The US has 1/3 of the top 500 ranked colleges in the world, and nearly 1/4 of the top 5000. http://www.webometrics.info/en/node/54 http://www.webometrics.info/en/node/54 There's a reason that international students flock to even low ranked state schools in the US.
- komali2 9y ago
  This is my entire point - our schools are filling up with non-American students.
  - learc83 9y ago
    In 2015 they made up 4.8% of all undergraduate students. I wouldn't say that is filling up. http://graphics.wsj.com/international-students/ http://graphics.wsj.com/international-students/

rb2018 9y ago

Hollywood - best country marketing ever.

and0 9y ago

I can't research this at the moment but a couple obvious explanations: - The USA is massive compared to every first-world nation (in the West) in terms of size / population / schools. I'd be shocked if a place like Sweden were somehow the top, statistically. - I know a few people who came from India to study here because it put them on a fast track for a visa (or whatever they're using to work here after graduating). So they based it on post-grad opportunities, not the education itself.

learc83 9y ago
Just looking at CS, there are a few schools in India that are as good as any but the very best US school. But assuming you can't get into those schools, any middle ranked US state school is a better bet.