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>Most money offered gets to be president. Didn't seem to work very well for Hillary... (I know this sounds like a cheap shot, but it completely breaks down you

>Most money offered gets to be president. Didn't seem to work very well for Hillary... (I know this sounds like a cheap shot, but it completely breaks down your argument)

ceejayoz 9y ago
$2B in free media attention helped a bit, I'd imagine. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-mammoth-advantage-in-free-media.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-t...
- mnx 9y ago
  Oh hey are we under a post about a guy running for president that he didn't pay for?
- rs999gti 9y ago
  Was Clinton blocked from social media? She could have polluted Twitter and the news with sound bites that forced analysis and coverage of her, which is what Trump did. He played the media and Twitter and got free advertising. She had as much accessibility but didn't use it to her advantage and thus ended up losing.
  - notyourday 9y ago
    Nah. She hired the smartest people in a room, the ones that laughted at Trumps digital operation. There was an article in 2016 that compared Clinton's Silicone Valley staffed machine with a pile of Macbook carrying geeks, big data, mobile developers vs. that sleepy dude in a corner. A few google queries can't seem to find it but i will dig it out later. It was that priceless. The SV circle jerk worked about as well as expected.
- eru 9y ago
  It does. But that free media attention did not come out of Trump's campaign chest. So porfirium's argument stands.
  - notyourday 9y ago
    Smart people know how to leverage spending. Dumb people just throw stupid amount of money at everything.
    - eru 9y ago
      Of course, smart people do stupid things sometimes and vice versa. (I am under the impression Trump was a much better campaigner than governor--and that's not measured by me liking any of his policies, but by the amount of things he's actually getting implemented.)
- civilian 9y ago
  The "Free media attention" was encouraged by the Clinton campaign. It was their "pied piper" strategy. They wanted to go against The Donald, because they felt it was their best chance of winning. https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaig...
- WalterBright 9y ago
  As I recall, that media coverage was almost entirely negative.

>Most money offered gets to be president. Didn't seem to work very well for Hillary... (I know this sounds like a cheap shot, but it completely breaks down your argument)

ceejayoz 9y ago

$2B in free media attention helped a bit, I'd imagine. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-mammoth-advantage-in-free-media.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-t...

mnx 9y ago
Oh hey are we under a post about a guy running for president that he didn't pay for?
rs999gti 9y ago
Was Clinton blocked from social media? She could have polluted Twitter and the news with sound bites that forced analysis and coverage of her, which is what Trump did. He played the media and Twitter and got free advertising. She had as much accessibility but didn't use it to her advantage and thus ended up losing.
- notyourday 9y ago
  Nah. She hired the smartest people in a room, the ones that laughted at Trumps digital operation. There was an article in 2016 that compared Clinton's Silicone Valley staffed machine with a pile of Macbook carrying geeks, big data, mobile developers vs. that sleepy dude in a corner. A few google queries can't seem to find it but i will dig it out later. It was that priceless. The SV circle jerk worked about as well as expected.
eru 9y ago
It does. But that free media attention did not come out of Trump's campaign chest. So porfirium's argument stands.
- notyourday 9y ago
  Smart people know how to leverage spending. Dumb people just throw stupid amount of money at everything.
  - eru 9y ago
    Of course, smart people do stupid things sometimes and vice versa. (I am under the impression Trump was a much better campaigner than governor--and that's not measured by me liking any of his policies, but by the amount of things he's actually getting implemented.)
civilian 9y ago
The "Free media attention" was encouraged by the Clinton campaign. It was their "pied piper" strategy. They wanted to go against The Donald, because they felt it was their best chance of winning. https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaig...
WalterBright 9y ago
As I recall, that media coverage was almost entirely negative.