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Arizona's government has deliberately taken a very pro-autonomous vehicles approach. The governor's executive order [1] specifically allows driverless vehicles

Arizona's government has deliberately taken a very pro-autonomous vehicles approach. The governor's executive order [1] specifically allows driverless vehicles on the roads within the state, provided they follow traffic laws and there is a licensed driver somewhere who will take responsibility if something goes wrong. [1] https://azgovernor.gov/file/2660/download?token=nLkPLRi1 https://azgovernor.gov/file/2660/download?token=nLkPLRi1

stale2002 9y ago
Let this be a lesson to other states. If you don't allow innovation to happen, then there will always be some other state that will, and then THAT other state is going to get all the cool tech, as Arizona is in this situation. .
Ajedi32 9y ago
> a licensed driver somewhere So, who would that be in this case? Does Waymo have a licensed driver monitoring the vehicle remotely, ready to take over at a moment's notice?
- mdorazio 9y ago
  I'm not sure about "at a moment's notice", but yes they're supposed to have live operators standing by who can remotely direct the vehicles when needed. Since these are Level 4 vehicles, they should be able to safely pull over or stop when they are unsure what to do, so it isn't necessary to have a human continuously monitoring at all times.
  - sidcool 9y ago
    What are level 4 vehicles?
    - TheCoreh 9y ago
      > Level 0: Automated system issues warnings but has no vehicle control. > Level 1 (”hands on”): Driver and automated system shares control over the vehicle. An example would be Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) where the driver controls steering and the automated system controls speed. Using Parking Assistance, steering is automated while speed is manual. The driver must be ready to retake full control at any time. Lane Keeping Assistance (LKA) Type II is a further example of level 1 self driving. > Level 2 (”hands off”): The automated system takes full control of the vehicle (accelerating, braking, and steering). The driver must monitor the driving and be prepared to immediately intervene at any time if the automated system fails to respond properly. The shorthand ”hands off” is not meant to be taken literally. In fact, contact between hand and wheel is often mandatory during SAE 2 driving, to confirm that the driver is ready to intervene. > Level 3 (”eyes off”): The driver can safely turn their attention away from the driving tasks, e.g. the driver can text or watch a movie. The vehicle will handle situations that call for an immediate response, like emergency braking. The driver must still be prepared to intervene within some limited time, specified by the manufacturer, when called upon by the vehicle to do so. In 2017 the Audi A8 Luxury Sedan was the first commercial car to claim to be able to do level 3 self driving. The car has a so called Traffic Jam Pilot. When activated by the human driver the car takes full control of all aspects of driving in slow-moving traffic at up to 60 kilometers per hour. The function only works on highways with a physical barrier separating oncoming traffic. > Level 4 (”mind off”): As level 3, but no driver attention is ever required for safety, i.e. the driver may safely go to sleep or leave the driver's seat. Self driving is supported only in limited areas (geofenced) or under special circumstances, like traffic jams. Outside of these areas or circumstances, the vehicle must be able to safely abort the trip, i.e. park the car, if the driver does not retake control. > Level 5 (”steering wheel optional”): No human intervention is required. An example would be a robotic taxi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Levels_of_driving_automation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Levels_of_drivi...
      - sidcool 9y ago
        Thanks.
    - deleted 9y ago
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stale2002 9y ago

Let this be a lesson to other states. If you don't allow innovation to happen, then there will always be some other state that will, and then THAT other state is going to get all the cool tech, as Arizona is in this situation. .

Ajedi32 9y ago

> a licensed driver somewhere So, who would that be in this case? Does Waymo have a licensed driver monitoring the vehicle remotely, ready to take over at a moment's notice?

mdorazio 9y ago
I'm not sure about "at a moment's notice", but yes they're supposed to have live operators standing by who can remotely direct the vehicles when needed. Since these are Level 4 vehicles, they should be able to safely pull over or stop when they are unsure what to do, so it isn't necessary to have a human continuously monitoring at all times.
- sidcool 9y ago
  What are level 4 vehicles?
  - TheCoreh 9y ago
    > Level 0: Automated system issues warnings but has no vehicle control. > Level 1 (”hands on”): Driver and automated system shares control over the vehicle. An example would be Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) where the driver controls steering and the automated system controls speed. Using Parking Assistance, steering is automated while speed is manual. The driver must be ready to retake full control at any time. Lane Keeping Assistance (LKA) Type II is a further example of level 1 self driving. > Level 2 (”hands off”): The automated system takes full control of the vehicle (accelerating, braking, and steering). The driver must monitor the driving and be prepared to immediately intervene at any time if the automated system fails to respond properly. The shorthand ”hands off” is not meant to be taken literally. In fact, contact between hand and wheel is often mandatory during SAE 2 driving, to confirm that the driver is ready to intervene. > Level 3 (”eyes off”): The driver can safely turn their attention away from the driving tasks, e.g. the driver can text or watch a movie. The vehicle will handle situations that call for an immediate response, like emergency braking. The driver must still be prepared to intervene within some limited time, specified by the manufacturer, when called upon by the vehicle to do so. In 2017 the Audi A8 Luxury Sedan was the first commercial car to claim to be able to do level 3 self driving. The car has a so called Traffic Jam Pilot. When activated by the human driver the car takes full control of all aspects of driving in slow-moving traffic at up to 60 kilometers per hour. The function only works on highways with a physical barrier separating oncoming traffic. > Level 4 (”mind off”): As level 3, but no driver attention is ever required for safety, i.e. the driver may safely go to sleep or leave the driver's seat. Self driving is supported only in limited areas (geofenced) or under special circumstances, like traffic jams. Outside of these areas or circumstances, the vehicle must be able to safely abort the trip, i.e. park the car, if the driver does not retake control. > Level 5 (”steering wheel optional”): No human intervention is required. An example would be a robotic taxi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Levels_of_driving_automation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Levels_of_drivi...
    - sidcool 9y ago
      Thanks.
  - deleted 9y ago
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