> I wouldn't consider any society that censors political speech to be fully liberal. Perhaps; but every society draws lines somewhere, and it's always a tradeo

> I wouldn't consider any society that censors political speech to be fully liberal. Perhaps; but every society draws lines somewhere, and it's always a tradeoff. As a German, I like that our tradeoff goes a little more in the direction of decency (whatever that means) over stark freedom to be offensive. And remember German "censorship" allows pretty crass things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B6hmermann_affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B6hmermann_affair There's mostly some historical/cultural sensitivity around Nazi symbols and the like. Some of this sensitivity is debatable nowadays, but I don't think it's actually distorting the political debate.