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The core point of the entire thread can be summed up by one of the tweets; "I believe well designed keyboard interfaces and well designed GUI interfaces have ex
by zaarn 9y ago
The core point of the entire thread can be summed up by one of the tweets; "I believe well designed keyboard interfaces and well designed GUI interfaces have exactly the same learning curve."
I agree with this. A properly and well designed keyboard interface is faster than any mouse. On the other hand, a properly designed mouse interface can be fast too. Both need to be applied when it makes sense.
I can also resonate with the GMaps example; people find it rather ridiculous that I prefer to use pen and map to plan routes but GMaps simply does not cover the complex demands of holiday routes with family.
- jgh 9y agoIMO Google Maps became completely awful when they made that new version of it, and they've been doing everything in their power to continue making it worse. Sure the scrolling is a lot smoother, but it's missing just a ton of features that the old version had. Plus the problems mentioned in the tweet storm, everything disappearing as soon as you change one item. PLUS that stupid side-bar that takes up half the screen now. Edit: Here's another good one I just ran into -- I can't sign out of just one Gmail account. I have to sign out of all my Gmail accounts, and sign back into the ones I didn't intend to sign out of.
- pjc50 9y agoI suspect most of gmaps' problems are there because it's an advertising company. They don't want you to plan a route, they want you to click on local search ads: https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/3246303?hl=en https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/3246303?hl=en Note that if they clear your pins so you have to re-search for something, that's potentially another CPC payment to them... You can sign into multiple Gmail accounts? How on earth does that work, does it involve the menacing prospect of "linking" them?
- jgh 9y agoI'm not really sure how it works under the hood, not being terribly familiar with how these login systems work, but you can basically (in your browser) click "add an account" and it will open a new tab and you can sign into the account. So right now I have 3 tabs open for gmail with 3 different accounts.
- megaman22 9y ago> Edit: Here's another good one I just ran into -- I can't sign out of just one Gmail account. I have to sign out of all my Gmail accounts, and sign back into the ones I didn't intend to sign out of. This seems like it is a shitty behavior inherent with OAuth. I have half a dozen Microsoft accounts for various things, and you just can't sign out of one and sign into another, unlinked account - things go all sideways and the auth providers that are trying to read your cookies get really confused and go into 401 redirect loops. It's better to burn it down and open a new set of incognito tabs instead.
- dhbradshaw 9y agoThis is a really interesting idea. It suggests that there is an entire missing world of terminal-like web apps. I suppose that search is effectively a text based app, so that's at least one mainstream terminal-like app.
- gowld 9y agoA good GUI can be navigated with the mouse, and a good CLI can be navigated with aid from teh mouse, so the dichotomy just doesn't make sense.