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The camera sticking out is not a problem when you use a case. Which most probably want to? Have to protect the expensive device somehow.

m_st 9y ago
Full ACK. Even without a case it never is or was a problem. It's just a little weird. However, the notch is indeed problematic when the iPhone X is used in landscape mode (tested on simulator).
matt4077 9y ago
The iPhone isn't designed to be used with a case. In fact, I'm pretty sure Jony Ive stops talking to anybody he sees using a case. His last words to you will be "If I thought you should put in a case, I would've made the back from cheap industrial plastic".
- sveme 9y ago
  Then he shouldn't have made the iPhone 7 so damn slippery. I hate the case, but I hate the fact that I have to replace the fucking screen for 150 Euros due to it slipping from my dry fingers even more. Now I have an ugly case and a spider-web criss-crossing the screen at the same time. This absolute need for a case with the 7 is a real major design flaw.
  - lucasverra 9y ago
    remove the case. Now you have a badass rock styled iphone. Win win (that's my actual config :) )
- maxerickson 9y ago
  Your imagined Jony Ive sounds like a real peach.
- nicpottier 9y ago
  Source? Also note that some of the first iPhones had plastic backs. I for one miss plastic, it is a hell of a lot more durable and doesn't have any of the issues with interference. There are lots of ways of making plastic feel premium as well.
- nofilter 9y ago
  Ever since having an iPhone 5S (now having 7) I've never had problems of it being slippery. I suppose it's how one holds a phone? I don't know, but I've never used a case either. Why would I pay a premium price for a premium looking phone when I'm going to hide it? I take care of my stuff, just as one would take care of a Lamborghini, but when the worst happens - like dropping the phone or wrecking your lambo - there's insurance. Every expensive device these days come with insurance, which any sane person will subscribe to.
suprfnk 9y ago
I have used all my iPhones (3G, 3GS, 4S, currently 6S) without a case. Cases are pretty much always uglier than the phone itself. They add extra cost to an already expensive phone. They make the phone thicker, bulkier. They wear out and become very ugly/dirty after a few months. Ofcourse you can replace it, but that's more costs. The 6S is unstable laying on its back, thanks to the camera. The unstableness removes a bit of the 'magic'. It feels bad using a wobbly product. You shouln't have to use a case. That's just bad design.
- signal11 9y ago
  I used my iPhone 5 without a case and I have to agree, the 5 was beautiful. The 6S I now have is too slippery to use without a case, though (even ignoring the 'unstable on its back' argument). I would definitely buy a thicker phone though, especially if it gave me better battery life.
- endemic 9y ago
  > That's just bad design. It's _terrible_ design IMO. Of course all of Apple's promotional photography show the beautiful hardware, sans case. But in reality, the phones have glass backs, and are not designed to withstand any sort of physical abuse. So there's dissonance between what Apple is creating vs. how it is actually used.
- scarface74 9y ago
  One of the major complaints about Apple is form over function. If they wanted a better camera, they needed a thicker lens. Either they would have had to increase the width of the entire phone,make it slanted, or have the bump.

m_st 9y ago

Full ACK. Even without a case it never is or was a problem. It's just a little weird. However, the notch is indeed problematic when the iPhone X is used in landscape mode (tested on simulator).

matt4077 9y ago

The iPhone isn't designed to be used with a case. In fact, I'm pretty sure Jony Ive stops talking to anybody he sees using a case. His last words to you will be "If I thought you should put in a case, I would've made the back from cheap industrial plastic".

sveme 9y ago
Then he shouldn't have made the iPhone 7 so damn slippery. I hate the case, but I hate the fact that I have to replace the fucking screen for 150 Euros due to it slipping from my dry fingers even more. Now I have an ugly case and a spider-web criss-crossing the screen at the same time. This absolute need for a case with the 7 is a real major design flaw.
- lucasverra 9y ago
  remove the case. Now you have a badass rock styled iphone. Win win (that's my actual config :) )
maxerickson 9y ago
Your imagined Jony Ive sounds like a real peach.
nicpottier 9y ago
Source? Also note that some of the first iPhones had plastic backs. I for one miss plastic, it is a hell of a lot more durable and doesn't have any of the issues with interference. There are lots of ways of making plastic feel premium as well.
nofilter 9y ago
Ever since having an iPhone 5S (now having 7) I've never had problems of it being slippery. I suppose it's how one holds a phone? I don't know, but I've never used a case either. Why would I pay a premium price for a premium looking phone when I'm going to hide it? I take care of my stuff, just as one would take care of a Lamborghini, but when the worst happens - like dropping the phone or wrecking your lambo - there's insurance. Every expensive device these days come with insurance, which any sane person will subscribe to.

suprfnk 9y ago

I have used all my iPhones (3G, 3GS, 4S, currently 6S) without a case. Cases are pretty much always uglier than the phone itself. They add extra cost to an already expensive phone. They make the phone thicker, bulkier. They wear out and become very ugly/dirty after a few months. Ofcourse you can replace it, but that's more costs. The 6S is unstable laying on its back, thanks to the camera. The unstableness removes a bit of the 'magic'. It feels bad using a wobbly product. You shouln't have to use a case. That's just bad design.

signal11 9y ago
I used my iPhone 5 without a case and I have to agree, the 5 was beautiful. The 6S I now have is too slippery to use without a case, though (even ignoring the 'unstable on its back' argument). I would definitely buy a thicker phone though, especially if it gave me better battery life.
endemic 9y ago
> That's just bad design. It's _terrible_ design IMO. Of course all of Apple's promotional photography show the beautiful hardware, sans case. But in reality, the phones have glass backs, and are not designed to withstand any sort of physical abuse. So there's dissonance between what Apple is creating vs. how it is actually used.
scarface74 9y ago
One of the major complaints about Apple is form over function. If they wanted a better camera, they needed a thicker lens. Either they would have had to increase the width of the entire phone,make it slanted, or have the bump.