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> Remove the colors and how would you know about shape, extension, mass? The same way that blind people do? > Colors, smells, pains, etc. are not part of the

> Remove the colors and how would you know about shape, extension, mass? The same way that blind people do? > Colors, smells, pains, etc. are not part of the mathematical or physical description, so you can't simply dismiss the problem of qualia by labeling it as dualism. Where do the colors, tastes, feels come from? I'm curious: what is a concrete answer that you would find satisfying? Even if it's unrealistic, or would only work in a different universe, what sort of answer are you looking for?

goatlover 9y ago
> The same way that blind people do? Color is a stand-in for any subjective (or creature-dependant) sensation, which would include sounds and feels. Remove those and epistemology collapses. > I'm curious: what is a concrete answer that you would find satisfying? Even if it's unrealistic, or would only work in a different universe, what sort of answer are you looking for? I have no idea. How to explain the subjective in terms of the objective? Why does such a division exist? It's a deep metaphysical question.