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Think of stuff like this: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/28/queer-kid-stuff-youtube-channel-seeks-to-teach-kids-about-dressing-in-drag-and-transgenderism/

Think of stuff like this: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/28/queer-kid-stuff-youtube-channel-seeks-to-teach-kids-about-dressing-in-drag-and-transgenderism/ http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/28/queer-kid-stuff-yout... It got so bad YouTube had to mass demonetise all LGBT videos.

fzeroracer 9y ago
Right, that's why they were demonetized. Because of 'gay propaganda' on a mass scale.
- porfirium 9y ago
  Hello, if you are being ironic can you please tell me why it was. I saw that article and I've seen lots of really bad examples of sexual propaganda directed at kids. Screenshots that circulated around the conservative sphere of Twitter. I presumed this was the reason Google eventually decided to demonetise gay propaganda in YouTube. Look at this I just found. Unfortunately I can't find the tweets I am talking about. But this is similar. https://aceloewgold.com/2017/07/25/popular-youtube-channels-aimed-at-children-bombard-viewers-with-bizarre-repetition-of-abortion-suicide-scat-eating-torture-other-disturbing-themes/ https://aceloewgold.com/2017/07/25/popular-youtube-channels-...
  - fzeroracer 9y ago
    You're sharing a site that peddles garbage like Pizzagate. Give me a reason why I should ever believe anything you say.
    - porfirium 9y ago
      You're free to look for those videos using the search feature of YouTube. I did and they are real. Some of them feature thumbnails or content that are clearly disturbing or include sexual themes. You would also believe the BBC which is linked from the article. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39381889 http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39381889
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      - viraptor 9y ago
        I'm going to assume you're not familiar with 4chan-like content, rather than trolling, so I'll try to summarise. Some people enjoy disturbing images/videos and are messed up enough to try injecting it in other contexts just for fun. When the previous article mentions something like "A discussion on 4Chan led users to discover a code hidden in the comments sections of some of the videos that led them to a Twitter account." what it likely means is: someone uploaded videos with extra information and then started themselves a spoof discussion that bled to other social networks via controversy seekers. 4chan-like communities are the source of things like pizzagate, raiding other networks to inject disallowed content, or doing things like posting videos of flashing colours on forums for people with epilepsy. Just getting someone reporting on it fuels creation of more videos like this. It's not that the videos don't exist - it is a problem that kids can run into them by accident via genuine search terms. It's the coded message part, mentioning pizzagate and podesta, mkultra, etc. that's the bullshit part in the aceloewgold article. The simple explanation is that: some weirdos like to create this content and some idiots crave the controversy of making others watch it by accident.
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viraptor 9y ago
(I'm going by the article text, can't see the video now) I'm curious why you think it's propaganda, or why you think it's bad? I don't think it's aimed to change anyone's mind (what propaganda is) - more for some kids that already think they're different in some way, to show that other people feel that way too and are ok with it. We could discuss what's the age appropriate level for various topics, and things like that. But if it's not relevant, you don't have to watch it. Nobody's going to convince a kid to be gay any more than they can make them straight (and unfortunately, many have tried that with terrible results), so I wouldn't call it propaganda. If anyone is forced to watch it, that would be terrible but because of the forced part rather than the content. Otherwise, I'm happy this exists if it makes anyone more comfortable with what they feel.
actuallyalys 9y ago
It's hard to argue Queer Kid Stuff is inappropriate for kids unless you think LGBT people are inappropriate for kids. For example, lesbians are defined as "girls who love girls," which is no different from how straight relationships are discussed with children. Ultimately, the basics of LGBT people's lives and identities are not actually hard to discuss with children and are a fact of life, particularly for kids who are LGBT themselves.

fzeroracer 9y ago

Right, that's why they were demonetized. Because of 'gay propaganda' on a mass scale.

porfirium 9y ago
Hello, if you are being ironic can you please tell me why it was. I saw that article and I've seen lots of really bad examples of sexual propaganda directed at kids. Screenshots that circulated around the conservative sphere of Twitter. I presumed this was the reason Google eventually decided to demonetise gay propaganda in YouTube. Look at this I just found. Unfortunately I can't find the tweets I am talking about. But this is similar. https://aceloewgold.com/2017/07/25/popular-youtube-channels-aimed-at-children-bombard-viewers-with-bizarre-repetition-of-abortion-suicide-scat-eating-torture-other-disturbing-themes/ https://aceloewgold.com/2017/07/25/popular-youtube-channels-...
- fzeroracer 9y ago
  You're sharing a site that peddles garbage like Pizzagate. Give me a reason why I should ever believe anything you say.
  - porfirium 9y ago
    You're free to look for those videos using the search feature of YouTube. I did and they are real. Some of them feature thumbnails or content that are clearly disturbing or include sexual themes. You would also believe the BBC which is linked from the article. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39381889 http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39381889
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    - viraptor 9y ago
      I'm going to assume you're not familiar with 4chan-like content, rather than trolling, so I'll try to summarise. Some people enjoy disturbing images/videos and are messed up enough to try injecting it in other contexts just for fun. When the previous article mentions something like "A discussion on 4Chan led users to discover a code hidden in the comments sections of some of the videos that led them to a Twitter account." what it likely means is: someone uploaded videos with extra information and then started themselves a spoof discussion that bled to other social networks via controversy seekers. 4chan-like communities are the source of things like pizzagate, raiding other networks to inject disallowed content, or doing things like posting videos of flashing colours on forums for people with epilepsy. Just getting someone reporting on it fuels creation of more videos like this. It's not that the videos don't exist - it is a problem that kids can run into them by accident via genuine search terms. It's the coded message part, mentioning pizzagate and podesta, mkultra, etc. that's the bullshit part in the aceloewgold article. The simple explanation is that: some weirdos like to create this content and some idiots crave the controversy of making others watch it by accident.
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viraptor 9y ago

(I'm going by the article text, can't see the video now) I'm curious why you think it's propaganda, or why you think it's bad? I don't think it's aimed to change anyone's mind (what propaganda is) - more for some kids that already think they're different in some way, to show that other people feel that way too and are ok with it. We could discuss what's the age appropriate level for various topics, and things like that. But if it's not relevant, you don't have to watch it. Nobody's going to convince a kid to be gay any more than they can make them straight (and unfortunately, many have tried that with terrible results), so I wouldn't call it propaganda. If anyone is forced to watch it, that would be terrible but because of the forced part rather than the content. Otherwise, I'm happy this exists if it makes anyone more comfortable with what they feel.

actuallyalys 9y ago

It's hard to argue Queer Kid Stuff is inappropriate for kids unless you think LGBT people are inappropriate for kids. For example, lesbians are defined as "girls who love girls," which is no different from how straight relationships are discussed with children. Ultimately, the basics of LGBT people's lives and identities are not actually hard to discuss with children and are a fact of life, particularly for kids who are LGBT themselves.