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Most of those are rebranded chromium. The only big ones that are independent are Safari (since Google forked Webkit to create Blink), Firefox, and IE/Edge. An

Most of those are rebranded chromium. The only big ones that are independent are Safari (since Google forked Webkit to create Blink), Firefox, and IE/Edge. And the impression i have is that Safari is lagging, Mozilla is directionless and struggling to keep Firefox relevant, and MS is, well, MS. Ever since Opera folded and made their browser a Chromium clone, only Mozilla have been carrying the banner for standard correctness. And even they seem more and more bow to Google's decrees (whole virtually cloning the Chrome look and feel with each Firefox update).

CydeWeys 9y ago
Mozilla is directionless and struggling? Huh? They just came out with Firefox Quantum, which is a huge step forward, and I believe might have taken the web performance crown.
- WillPostForFood 9y ago
  If you step back and look at Mozilla's performance, it looks like they have been struggling. https://www.w3counter.com/trends https://www.w3counter.com/trends Hopefully they are on the upswing recently because they have found more focus and direction.
gkya 9y ago
Quantum is a great improvement to Firefox. I'm running 57.0b14 ATM (normally I'm quite conservative with anything except Emacs) and quite pleased. The performance improvements are quite noticable. Though I do wish they created a more user-extensible browser, a bit a la Emacs.
- Izkata 9y ago
  > Though I do wish they created a more user-extensible browser, a bit a la Emacs. That's what Firefox used to be, and one of the main things that got it to where it is now. But 57 is also the one that drops that flexibility with removal of the XUL. Supposedly there'll be new API calls for WebExtension-converted add-ons, but it seems to be really slow going. Between this and the Electrolysis update that also broke a lot of add-ons, I've seen a few get abandoned by their devs, who are fed up with Mozilla breaking what works.

CydeWeys 9y ago

Mozilla is directionless and struggling? Huh? They just came out with Firefox Quantum, which is a huge step forward, and I believe might have taken the web performance crown.

WillPostForFood 9y ago
If you step back and look at Mozilla's performance, it looks like they have been struggling. https://www.w3counter.com/trends https://www.w3counter.com/trends Hopefully they are on the upswing recently because they have found more focus and direction.

gkya 9y ago

Quantum is a great improvement to Firefox. I'm running 57.0b14 ATM (normally I'm quite conservative with anything except Emacs) and quite pleased. The performance improvements are quite noticable. Though I do wish they created a more user-extensible browser, a bit a la Emacs.

Izkata 9y ago
> Though I do wish they created a more user-extensible browser, a bit a la Emacs. That's what Firefox used to be, and one of the main things that got it to where it is now. But 57 is also the one that drops that flexibility with removal of the XUL. Supposedly there'll be new API calls for WebExtension-converted add-ons, but it seems to be really slow going. Between this and the Electrolysis update that also broke a lot of add-ons, I've seen a few get abandoned by their devs, who are fed up with Mozilla breaking what works.