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In the 50s, everyone knew by the year 2000 everyone would have a rocket car, because technology was progressing so fast. Turns out the most advanced aeronautica
by peterwwillis 9y ago
In the 50s, everyone knew by the year 2000 everyone would have a rocket car, because technology was progressing so fast. Turns out the most advanced aeronautical tech peaked in the 70s, and we just stopped giving a shit about advancing it past that point. We're only now bringing back supersonic transatlantic flights, 14 years after we stopped them because it turned out it was expensive.
When people talk about AI, they don't talk realistically, they talk theoretically. Just look at trains. New York City subways have been trying to modernize their switching system for 25 years. Estimates show as long as 50 more years just to finish upgrading existing tracks. Are the people that are upgrading the track going to get replaced before then? Not likely.
Even if all practical common sense is thrown aside and you imagine a Jetsons world where robots have taken over most jobs, there will be new jobs, because we will have new industries built on top of the automated ones. We just invent new jobs, the same way we invented them for a technology industry that did not even remotely exist 50 years ago.
All of this AI hype also depends on the status quo, and in all likelihood our society won't even be remotely the same in 40 years. Estimations like these depend on the US maintaining its hegemonic dominance over global trade. How the hell is it going to do that if its deficit grows exponentially and it can barely fund its federal budget every few months? Is Silicon Valley going to keep pumping out new technology once the unlimited tap of VC money dries up? Can the industry withstand a collapse of the current regime of super-consolidated monopolies? Will bare-bones politics end up poisoning and strip-mining the land we currently overburden for a few genetically modified crops, reducing economic output to fracking protected wilderness for oil and gas and white collar work in a paltry few cities on the coasts?
Who knows, but assuming robots will take all our jobs in 40 years sounds like extremely magical thinking.
- EADGBE 9y agoIt's important to remember this grounded-ness in real life examples. Not all companies are able to wipe the slate and begin again. They may have infrastructure or data that's nearly a hundred years old. One can't just scorch the earth to solve all the problems, as I sometimes see "robots taking jobs" as. How can I interface my new Robot Worker 3000 to RPG running on proprietary 40-year-old software? Of which the original programmer is long gone.
- Gustomaximus 9y ago> Turns out the most advanced aeronautical tech peaked in the 70s, and we just stopped giving a shit about advancing it past that point. Really? Gains have been massive since the 70's. Today the goalposts are comfort and cost efficiency. So we're not getting the more sexy speed advancements the jet engine brought us. But cost, comfort, safety have all improved massively. And last year we even ha a solar plane fly around the world. Self landing space rockets. Flying wings. Drones. I feel your ignoring much beyond going supersonic.
- peterwwillis 9y agoThose examples support my point. Not only did we have more advanced technology then, we were able to achieve superior technology in a decade or less, when we felt like it, and the rest of the time we didn't focus on advancement at all. Just because we can achieve it has absolutely nothing to do with whether we will or not. I'm still waiting on my flying car.
- Piskvorrr 9y agoThe Moon Race was a thinly veiled ICBM race - and in military research, cost is rarely a concern. With this type of warfare no longer a major concern came SALT, SALT II, bean-counting, and the end of this line of development.
- Gustomaximus 9y ago> Not only did we have more advanced technology then Any examples?