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I think it is great news. Europe is so much behind the US in the IT-Sector. Even russia has a successful search-engine. The default view is a bit overloaded

by 5kyn3t 9y ago

I think it is great news. Europe is so much behind the US in the IT-Sector. Even russia has a successful search-engine. The default view is a bit overloaded in my opinion... Lite version: https://lite.qwant.com/ https://lite.qwant.com/ A plus point is that qwant also supports hashbangs like duckduckgo.

itronitron 9y ago
looks promising, qwanting 'java concurrency' gives a nice set of relevant results
- DCRichards 9y ago
  I hope that one day when Qwant is big, this is cited as the first use of 'qwanting'
Annatar 9y ago
Europe is so much behind the US in the IT-Sector. Isn’t that a sad truth, only made worse by the irony that a lot of us went to work in the States. A lot of Europe is still conceptually stuck in the pre-UNIX, lone desktop Windows/MS-DOS, early ’90’s era, while the rest of the world runs them by with macOS PC’s and iPads. Lots of European UNIX talent left for the States right at the cusp of the dot-com era and helped build the Internet because that’s where all the action was. We never really recovered from that.
- jjkk0101 9y ago
  I am based in Copenhagen and can see some innovation at the application level but there is a lot of catch-up as well, mostly focused at the nordics internal market. For lower levels of the stack (e.g.: IaaS), there is no way to be competitive against SV without subsidy b/c fwcit there is no access to capital nor enough talents to this problem size. The prospective is not getting any better at the immigration level, the greencard schema has been repelled and companies are having even harder time to attract talent.
- everyone 9y ago
  "A lot of Europe is still conceptually stuck in the pre-UNIX, lone desktop Windows/MS-DOS, early ’90’s era" So Europe is stuck in the 90's which somehow predates the 70's ?? .. "while the rest of the world runs them by with macOS PC’s and iPads" Buying istuff is somehow progressive?
  - Annatar 9y ago
    You betcha: that stuff runs UNIX, doesn’t disrupt one’s concentration with modal windows and runs circles around Windows desktops performance-wise. For most people an iPad and web applications are apparently enough, which means they don’t need or want a Windows desktop PC any more. The early ‘90’s computing paradigm with a lone desktop PC user and application isn’t cutting it any more. At the very least, one good thing came out of change.
    - everyone 9y ago
      "that stuff runs UNIX" osx and ios have an very old UNIX legacy but as they currently stand are extremely restrictive walled gardens completey controlled by a single giant avaricious corporation. If you were true to your ideas you'd be running Linux which is open, open source and btw is most popular in Europe, eg. being the OS used by the public sector in Germany. "doesn’t disrupt one’s concentration with modal windows" What? please give an example. Linux's UI can be configured however u want. "and runs circles around Windows desktops performance-wise" That is just nonsensical. To talk about performance you need to be comparing 2 specific things. Which things are you talking about? As an example, heres two things I'm comparing; For fun once at work we compared benchmarks between two new laptops each costing about €1400. My colleague had a macbook pro, I had a msi gs60. My laptop scored about 3 times as much in cpu performance and 5 times as much in a unigine valley graphics becnchmark. "The early ‘90’s computing paradigm with a lone desktop PC user and application isn’t cutting it any more" Sure things are going that way, but if you think most users are ready to do everything via web-apps now then u are living in a very rarefied bubble. photoshop, autocad, 3dsmax, ableton, an endless list of specialised, high performance demand, software for professionals, theres a long way to go before that kind of thing can run in a browser. Also how is iOS os OSX somehow more web-app friendly? Youre much more restricted on them on what browser you can run and how u can configure it than on linux or even windows. html5 canvas doesnt even work properly on iOS.

by 5kyn3t 9y ago

itronitron 9y ago

looks promising, qwanting 'java concurrency' gives a nice set of relevant results

DCRichards 9y ago
I hope that one day when Qwant is big, this is cited as the first use of 'qwanting'

Annatar 9y ago

Europe is so much behind the US in the IT-Sector. Isn’t that a sad truth, only made worse by the irony that a lot of us went to work in the States. A lot of Europe is still conceptually stuck in the pre-UNIX, lone desktop Windows/MS-DOS, early ’90’s era, while the rest of the world runs them by with macOS PC’s and iPads. Lots of European UNIX talent left for the States right at the cusp of the dot-com era and helped build the Internet because that’s where all the action was. We never really recovered from that.

jjkk0101 9y ago
I am based in Copenhagen and can see some innovation at the application level but there is a lot of catch-up as well, mostly focused at the nordics internal market. For lower levels of the stack (e.g.: IaaS), there is no way to be competitive against SV without subsidy b/c fwcit there is no access to capital nor enough talents to this problem size. The prospective is not getting any better at the immigration level, the greencard schema has been repelled and companies are having even harder time to attract talent.
everyone 9y ago
"A lot of Europe is still conceptually stuck in the pre-UNIX, lone desktop Windows/MS-DOS, early ’90’s era" So Europe is stuck in the 90's which somehow predates the 70's ?? .. "while the rest of the world runs them by with macOS PC’s and iPads" Buying istuff is somehow progressive?
- Annatar 9y ago
  You betcha: that stuff runs UNIX, doesn’t disrupt one’s concentration with modal windows and runs circles around Windows desktops performance-wise. For most people an iPad and web applications are apparently enough, which means they don’t need or want a Windows desktop PC any more. The early ‘90’s computing paradigm with a lone desktop PC user and application isn’t cutting it any more. At the very least, one good thing came out of change.
  - everyone 9y ago
    "that stuff runs UNIX" osx and ios have an very old UNIX legacy but as they currently stand are extremely restrictive walled gardens completey controlled by a single giant avaricious corporation. If you were true to your ideas you'd be running Linux which is open, open source and btw is most popular in Europe, eg. being the OS used by the public sector in Germany. "doesn’t disrupt one’s concentration with modal windows" What? please give an example. Linux's UI can be configured however u want. "and runs circles around Windows desktops performance-wise" That is just nonsensical. To talk about performance you need to be comparing 2 specific things. Which things are you talking about? As an example, heres two things I'm comparing; For fun once at work we compared benchmarks between two new laptops each costing about €1400. My colleague had a macbook pro, I had a msi gs60. My laptop scored about 3 times as much in cpu performance and 5 times as much in a unigine valley graphics becnchmark. "The early ‘90’s computing paradigm with a lone desktop PC user and application isn’t cutting it any more" Sure things are going that way, but if you think most users are ready to do everything via web-apps now then u are living in a very rarefied bubble. photoshop, autocad, 3dsmax, ableton, an endless list of specialised, high performance demand, software for professionals, theres a long way to go before that kind of thing can run in a browser. Also how is iOS os OSX somehow more web-app friendly? Youre much more restricted on them on what browser you can run and how u can configure it than on linux or even windows. html5 canvas doesnt even work properly on iOS.