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You have a huge amount of choice in your taxes; you can vote, run for office, and advocate for political positions. You have zero choice in your economic situat

by wfo 9y ago

You have a huge amount of choice in your taxes; you can vote, run for office, and advocate for political positions. You have zero choice in your economic situation (if you are 99% of people) since most financial choices are made for you by large companies that you have zero stake in or control over. Is there a difference between someone pointing a gun at your head and saying 'your money or your life' and a company that buys all the water in your region and withholds it saying 'your money or your life'? No.

nickpp 9y ago
Have you voted? How much did your vote count? Did you run for office? How much change did you manage to bring? In a company you can also buy shares, vote at board meeting or get a job in and change it from the inside. But that is not the freedom of choice I am talking about. That is a fake choice since it is too difficult, requiring you to change your entire life. What I am talking about is the simple choice of free market: choosing who to give your money and for what services. I do not intend to give up the government services, I just want to be able to transparently select the provider and not have to buy them in bulk, bundled together.
- _Tev 9y ago
  > That is a fake choice since it is too difficult, requiring you to change your entire life. Yeah, the government and the entire social system can change much more easily!
- wfo 9y ago
  >But that is not the freedom of choice I am talking about. That is a fake choice since it is too difficult, requiring you to change your entire life. What I am talking about is the simple choice of free market: choosing who to give your money and for what services. Sure -- but at the same time, I bought a product at walmart five years ago, then I decided not to buy there anymore. Why hasn't walmart changed its business practices? I think you're right to say my vote means nearly nothing, but you are missing the point that my purchase means even less. Votes are at least distributed one vote one person; if you accept the financial scheme for decision making you are literally just giving all the power to people who are currently wealthy explicitly. >What I am talking about is the simple choice of free market: choosing who to give your money and for what services. This is a meaningless choice that only the wealthy can make in the first place. >I do not intend to give up the government services, I just want to be able to transparently select the provider and not have to buy them in bulk, bundled together. I'm not sure what you mean here -- you want government services, but you also want to transparently select the provider. For government services, the government is the provider.

by wfo 9y ago

nickpp 9y ago

Have you voted? How much did your vote count? Did you run for office? How much change did you manage to bring? In a company you can also buy shares, vote at board meeting or get a job in and change it from the inside. But that is not the freedom of choice I am talking about. That is a fake choice since it is too difficult, requiring you to change your entire life. What I am talking about is the simple choice of free market: choosing who to give your money and for what services. I do not intend to give up the government services, I just want to be able to transparently select the provider and not have to buy them in bulk, bundled together.

_Tev 9y ago
> That is a fake choice since it is too difficult, requiring you to change your entire life. Yeah, the government and the entire social system can change much more easily!
wfo 9y ago
>But that is not the freedom of choice I am talking about. That is a fake choice since it is too difficult, requiring you to change your entire life. What I am talking about is the simple choice of free market: choosing who to give your money and for what services. Sure -- but at the same time, I bought a product at walmart five years ago, then I decided not to buy there anymore. Why hasn't walmart changed its business practices? I think you're right to say my vote means nearly nothing, but you are missing the point that my purchase means even less. Votes are at least distributed one vote one person; if you accept the financial scheme for decision making you are literally just giving all the power to people who are currently wealthy explicitly. >What I am talking about is the simple choice of free market: choosing who to give your money and for what services. This is a meaningless choice that only the wealthy can make in the first place. >I do not intend to give up the government services, I just want to be able to transparently select the provider and not have to buy them in bulk, bundled together. I'm not sure what you mean here -- you want government services, but you also want to transparently select the provider. For government services, the government is the provider.