I tried using leinengen and boot, each had it's own issues. I remember spending many frustrating hours trying to get the live reloading to work. I feel like a

I tried using leinengen and boot, each had it's own issues. I remember spending many frustrating hours trying to get the live reloading to work. I feel like a lot of the Clojure ecosystem is quite hacky, and if you can hack around in clojure you can work around many of the problems, but if you're a clojure novice each tiny hiccup is minutes to hours spent trying to figure just what is the problem.