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It feels like I'm watching someone try to act out the part of a character in a spy novel. Big encrypted files called Insurance, twittering about being followed

by dlytle 16y ago

It feels like I'm watching someone try to act out the part of a character in a spy novel. Big encrypted files called Insurance, twittering about being followed by government agents, sensationalizing the things they post... I think they have good reasons for what they're doing (or at least good intentions), and I do like the concept behind WikiLeaks. I just think they're getting a bit caught up in the whole drama/mystique, and their credibility and ethical standing is suffering as a result, which could be dangerous for the "open leak repository" movement.

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riffer 16y ago
A couple of years ago Julian and his colleagues released information that swung the national election in Kenya. This must have gotten the attention of every government with something to hide (all of them). Since then, he claims to have released more confidential information than the rest of the worldwide media. Combined. The stakes are enormous. And the reality is that that puts a target on your back. Go Julian, go.
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  - riffer 16y ago
    Please produce a statement that I made in which I pretend he's a journalist holding a neutral point of view.
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faramarz 16y ago
I have to agree with you. I think if there ever is a downfall to the Wikileak initiative, it will be due to the gloating and the drama they perpetuate. Julian and his gang need to stop with the commentary and just release the documents. leave the opinions to be formed by the people. The twitter account is going to come back and bite them in the ass if they keep pushing commentary out. I fully support the need for an organisation like this and having seen multiple interviews of Julian, I have to say he's the right character to lead this mission.
- Rod 16y ago
  "Leave the opinions to be formed by the people." Yes, because the average American surely has the time to read 100s of classified documents. The goal of the release is to attain reform, and if drama stokes discussion and catalyzes reform, so be it. What's the problem with drama exactly? The more notorious Assange gets, the harder it will be for the powers that be to get rid of him. Do you honestly think that drama leads to the downfall of media? Do you remember CNN, Fox, NYTimes in early 2003, when they all claimed that Iraq had WMD? Why do they still have credibility? They do because media has become part of the enterntainment industry, which makes it obvious why WL is necessary.
  - philwelch 16y ago
    It seems self-defeating to argue there's a shortage of people who are capable of dramatizing leaked information on the one hand, while on the other hand arguing that the entire news industry is solely interested in entertainment.
ahn 16y ago
>It feels like I'm watching someone try to act out the part of a character in a spy novel. In that case we should be able to figure out his key and decrypt the file. The key in the spy novels is always something you feel like you should have seen coming, something predictable.
Confusion 16y ago
It feels like I'm watching someone try to act out the part of a character in a spy novel. It feels more like I'm watching someone forced to act out that part. Those novels me be dramatized, but many are still based on the way things actually happen. Ian Flemming couldn't have kept that out if he wanted to, because he simply knew. sensationalizing the things they post You can't sensationalize something on your own.

by dlytle 16y ago

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riffer 16y ago

A couple of years ago Julian and his colleagues released information that swung the national election in Kenya. This must have gotten the attention of every government with something to hide (all of them). Since then, he claims to have released more confidential information than the rest of the worldwide media. Combined. The stakes are enormous. And the reality is that that puts a target on your back. Go Julian, go.

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- riffer 16y ago
  Please produce a statement that I made in which I pretend he's a journalist holding a neutral point of view.
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faramarz 16y ago

I have to agree with you. I think if there ever is a downfall to the Wikileak initiative, it will be due to the gloating and the drama they perpetuate. Julian and his gang need to stop with the commentary and just release the documents. leave the opinions to be formed by the people. The twitter account is going to come back and bite them in the ass if they keep pushing commentary out. I fully support the need for an organisation like this and having seen multiple interviews of Julian, I have to say he's the right character to lead this mission.

Rod 16y ago
"Leave the opinions to be formed by the people." Yes, because the average American surely has the time to read 100s of classified documents. The goal of the release is to attain reform, and if drama stokes discussion and catalyzes reform, so be it. What's the problem with drama exactly? The more notorious Assange gets, the harder it will be for the powers that be to get rid of him. Do you honestly think that drama leads to the downfall of media? Do you remember CNN, Fox, NYTimes in early 2003, when they all claimed that Iraq had WMD? Why do they still have credibility? They do because media has become part of the enterntainment industry, which makes it obvious why WL is necessary.
- philwelch 16y ago
  It seems self-defeating to argue there's a shortage of people who are capable of dramatizing leaked information on the one hand, while on the other hand arguing that the entire news industry is solely interested in entertainment.

ahn 16y ago

>It feels like I'm watching someone try to act out the part of a character in a spy novel. In that case we should be able to figure out his key and decrypt the file. The key in the spy novels is always something you feel like you should have seen coming, something predictable.

Confusion 16y ago

It feels like I'm watching someone try to act out the part of a character in a spy novel. It feels more like I'm watching someone forced to act out that part. Those novels me be dramatized, but many are still based on the way things actually happen. Ian Flemming couldn't have kept that out if he wanted to, because he simply knew. sensationalizing the things they post You can't sensationalize something on your own.