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> It's not actually innovation, if it doesn't work Well it's not going to be innovation even if it does work. The technological progress of a hundred years and

by sho 9y ago

> It's not actually innovation, if it doesn't work Well it's not going to be innovation even if it does work. The technological progress of a hundred years and hundreds of billions of dollars of continuous refinement in aviation is insane. He's not going to be able to improve on a single bolt, let alone a whole frame, for a million bucks. Probably not for a billion bucks. I mean, kudos for the guy for doing his thing and I don't mean to be hard on him but geeze. It's entrepreneurship and can-do spirit, which is great, but it's not innovation.

SOLAR_FIELDS 9y ago
If the dude refined a kit and is able to create a relatively safe DIY plane for under 100k in parts isn’t that an innovation?
- ryanlol 9y ago
  For that money you can purchase several safe planes.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 9y ago
    Can you really get a functioning single prop with new or decent functionally usable used parts that is completely flyable and safe enough for regulations for under 100k?
    - HeyLaughingBoy 9y ago
      http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale/Cessna_150_152/92/page-1.htm http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale/Cessna_150_1...
    - hedgehog 9y ago
      In the US there is a category called "light sport aircraft" where there are some examples under $100k and many under $150k. https://generalaviationnews.com/2015/10/12/four-lsa-under-96000/ https://generalaviationnews.com/2015/10/12/four-lsa-under-96...
      - volkl48 9y ago
        Those are also prices for a new aircraft, used go lower.
        SOLAR_FIELDS 9y ago
        Enough economies of scale to make this kind of business pretty much unviable? Maybe. I’m pretty sure you can still buy car kits from car kit companies that are more expensive than a good Honda because hobbyists enjoy building cars from “scratch”. It does decrease the market value of the proposition sitgnificantly though if you are only focused on hobbyists.
        ryanlol 9y ago
        $100k isn't particularly cheap for a DIY kit plane. Planes are cheap, it's everything else that's expensive.

by sho 9y ago

SOLAR_FIELDS 9y ago

If the dude refined a kit and is able to create a relatively safe DIY plane for under 100k in parts isn’t that an innovation?

ryanlol 9y ago
For that money you can purchase several safe planes.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 9y ago
  Can you really get a functioning single prop with new or decent functionally usable used parts that is completely flyable and safe enough for regulations for under 100k?
  - HeyLaughingBoy 9y ago
    http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale/Cessna_150_152/92/page-1.htm http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale/Cessna_150_1...
  - hedgehog 9y ago
    In the US there is a category called "light sport aircraft" where there are some examples under $100k and many under $150k. https://generalaviationnews.com/2015/10/12/four-lsa-under-96000/ https://generalaviationnews.com/2015/10/12/four-lsa-under-96...
    - volkl48 9y ago
      Those are also prices for a new aircraft, used go lower.
      - SOLAR_FIELDS 9y ago
        Enough economies of scale to make this kind of business pretty much unviable? Maybe. I’m pretty sure you can still buy car kits from car kit companies that are more expensive than a good Honda because hobbyists enjoy building cars from “scratch”. It does decrease the market value of the proposition sitgnificantly though if you are only focused on hobbyists.
        ryanlol 9y ago
        $100k isn't particularly cheap for a DIY kit plane. Planes are cheap, it's everything else that's expensive.