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So Eastern European. I was at an Elastic conference in Poland where there were all sorts of ads which would be considered offensive here. Like one depicting a

by 20171026 9y ago

So Eastern European. I was at an Elastic conference in Poland where there were all sorts of ads which would be considered offensive here. Like one depicting a Native American chief in full head dress spouting some vague Indian-ish proverb with a tech slant.

nnq 9y ago
I hope you meant it in a good way. There's very very few good things about Eastern Europe. But the "open minded humor" and ability to both take and receive jokes that would offend others is one of the good things. Humor has rarely been "malicious" and discriminative here, like in more developed European countries or the US. EE never actually had things like slavery or serious racial discrimination (the Rroma people are a good example of that actually - they have been so well tolerated that they never actually integrated... not that that is a good thing), and communism actually brought women closer to equality status in the workplace. This made jokes that are "charged" in other places of the world be very OK here. Yeah, it's kind of the "South Park of Europe" so you need to have a taste for this kind of thing to enjoy it. And, unfortunately, it's disappearing... people are getting too thin-skinned and liberal-corporatist there too. And nobody can be blaimed for that either, since pulling towards the opposite direction would be pulling towards the East and that's a no no. Better thin-skinned liberal pro-European than getting even a millimeter closer whatever toxic pseudo-authoritarian concoction is brewing around Rusia nowadays...
- 20171026 9y ago
  I'm non-white and live in Eastern Europe. I love the humor here. :-D
- dang 9y ago
  > There's very very few good things about Eastern Europe. The positive intent behind your comment is clear, but please don't post like this to HN. It crosses into, or closely enough resembles, nationalistic attack. Commenting like this about the place you yourself are from isn't, unfortunately, much different in terms of toxic internet effects, so on HN, please just don't. I'm sure you can find a more precise and neutral way to say what you want to say.
  - nnq 9y ago
    I have no intent whatsoever to avoid "toxic internet effects" or "nationalistic attack". There's room for more love in the world, just as there's room for more hate, the latter is just as useful. Ironically, your comment shows exactly that you "don't grok", or simply don't enjoy, the kind of sometimes intentionally toxico-aggressive humor I was referring to ;) Sometime you incite a bit of hate and generate some toxic effects on purpose just 'cause it's... fun. And it's perfectly OK as long as you sincerely 100% lacks any aim/purpose/agenda and make sure nobody gains anything from it (it's OK if everyone loses equally from it :P). EDIT +: And it helps people chill, relax, and live in peace, kind of like a "hate vaccine"... as long as you're surrounded by people that are not too sensitive to "grok it". I think in general, worldwide, people need some "hate vaccination" to desensitize them a bit and decrease worldwide volatility. We're becoming too edgy and close to the red button if we don't realize there's "good" in any kind of "evil" attitude.

nnq 9y ago

I hope you meant it in a good way. There's very very few good things about Eastern Europe. But the "open minded humor" and ability to both take and receive jokes that would offend others is one of the good things. Humor has rarely been "malicious" and discriminative here, like in more developed European countries or the US. EE never actually had things like slavery or serious racial discrimination (the Rroma people are a good example of that actually - they have been so well tolerated that they never actually integrated... not that that is a good thing), and communism actually brought women closer to equality status in the workplace. This made jokes that are "charged" in other places of the world be very OK here. Yeah, it's kind of the "South Park of Europe" so you need to have a taste for this kind of thing to enjoy it. And, unfortunately, it's disappearing... people are getting too thin-skinned and liberal-corporatist there too. And nobody can be blaimed for that either, since pulling towards the opposite direction would be pulling towards the East and that's a no no. Better thin-skinned liberal pro-European than getting even a millimeter closer whatever toxic pseudo-authoritarian concoction is brewing around Rusia nowadays...

20171026 9y ago
I'm non-white and live in Eastern Europe. I love the humor here. :-D
dang 9y ago
> There's very very few good things about Eastern Europe. The positive intent behind your comment is clear, but please don't post like this to HN. It crosses into, or closely enough resembles, nationalistic attack. Commenting like this about the place you yourself are from isn't, unfortunately, much different in terms of toxic internet effects, so on HN, please just don't. I'm sure you can find a more precise and neutral way to say what you want to say.
- nnq 9y ago
  I have no intent whatsoever to avoid "toxic internet effects" or "nationalistic attack". There's room for more love in the world, just as there's room for more hate, the latter is just as useful. Ironically, your comment shows exactly that you "don't grok", or simply don't enjoy, the kind of sometimes intentionally toxico-aggressive humor I was referring to ;) Sometime you incite a bit of hate and generate some toxic effects on purpose just 'cause it's... fun. And it's perfectly OK as long as you sincerely 100% lacks any aim/purpose/agenda and make sure nobody gains anything from it (it's OK if everyone loses equally from it :P). EDIT +: And it helps people chill, relax, and live in peace, kind of like a "hate vaccine"... as long as you're surrounded by people that are not too sensitive to "grok it". I think in general, worldwide, people need some "hate vaccination" to desensitize them a bit and decrease worldwide volatility. We're becoming too edgy and close to the red button if we don't realize there's "good" in any kind of "evil" attitude.