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No. It threatens media/propagandists control over information. That's why russia, china, europe and now we are working so hard to control social media. It's t

No. It threatens media/propagandists control over information. That's why russia, china, europe and now we are working so hard to control social media. It's threatens russian establishment propaganda. It threatens chinese establishment propaganda. It threatens western establishment propaganda. There is a reason why the media is attacking social media so vociferously.

uoaei 9y ago
I wrote this on another post today, but it seems like the social media are becoming arms of nation-states more than they are creating a haven of free expression that resists censorship. The hoopla about CounterPunch and similar editorial websites last year seems to confirm the suspicion that Google et al. aren't really fighting for the users.[1] [1] http://www.mintpressnews.com/counterpunch-google-censors-block-access-to-alternative-news/230769/ http://www.mintpressnews.com/counterpunch-google-censors-blo...
dredmorbius 9y ago
If Facebook, Google, Twitter, Reddit, et al, manifestly demonstrated that they produced and distributed more rather than less accurate information your comment might have merits. The fact is that they don't, that the platforms have been very much wide open to manipulation, that the founders and executives of the companies have denied that there is any such problem, and that malicious agents have subverted the systems and through them social and political dynamics. Your last paragraph frankly makes your first nonsensical. Either ensuring a sound epistemic and media system is good, or it is not. You're trying to have it both ways. The fact that manipulating media for control and influence is undertaken is very widely recognised, and has been for millennia.
- eighthnate 9y ago
  > Your last paragraph frankly makes your first nonsensical. How? > You're trying to have it both ways. No. I'm explaining why all governments and all propaganda organizations want to control social media. It's why china banned facebook and why they are building their own internal/national social media platforms. The same thing with russia. > The fact that manipulating media for control and influence is undertaken is very widely recognised, and has been for millennia. I know. That's my point.

uoaei 9y ago

I wrote this on another post today, but it seems like the social media are becoming arms of nation-states more than they are creating a haven of free expression that resists censorship. The hoopla about CounterPunch and similar editorial websites last year seems to confirm the suspicion that Google et al. aren't really fighting for the users.[1] [1] http://www.mintpressnews.com/counterpunch-google-censors-block-access-to-alternative-news/230769/ http://www.mintpressnews.com/counterpunch-google-censors-blo...

dredmorbius 9y ago

If Facebook, Google, Twitter, Reddit, et al, manifestly demonstrated that they produced and distributed more rather than less accurate information your comment might have merits. The fact is that they don't, that the platforms have been very much wide open to manipulation, that the founders and executives of the companies have denied that there is any such problem, and that malicious agents have subverted the systems and through them social and political dynamics. Your last paragraph frankly makes your first nonsensical. Either ensuring a sound epistemic and media system is good, or it is not. You're trying to have it both ways. The fact that manipulating media for control and influence is undertaken is very widely recognised, and has been for millennia.

eighthnate 9y ago
> Your last paragraph frankly makes your first nonsensical. How? > You're trying to have it both ways. No. I'm explaining why all governments and all propaganda organizations want to control social media. It's why china banned facebook and why they are building their own internal/national social media platforms. The same thing with russia. > The fact that manipulating media for control and influence is undertaken is very widely recognised, and has been for millennia. I know. That's my point.