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> I feel like if all work was suddenly remote, city residency would drop at least 50% in a week. I hope remote eventually becomes the norm. Could not disagree

• Density 9y ago
  Most people aren't young. Raising children in a city is a nightmare.
  • saosebastiao 9y ago
    Speak for yourself. Raising children in the burbs is a nightmare.
    • grogenaut 9y ago
      Speak for yourself. Raising children is a nightmare. (Tho worth it)
    • thousandautumns 9y ago
      I'm not sure I can envision a scenario where raising children in a suburb is worse than trying to do so in a city. Mind explaining?
      • xkcd-sucks 9y ago
        They feel entitled to roam around in the woods without adult supervision, they come home muddy, they don't learn that you have to pay for everything, and their self-learned knowledge of manipulating the physical/natural world is scary and disempowering to tech weenie parents.
      • saosebastiao 9y ago
        Children are humans and are social creatures just as much as adult humans are... if not even more so. It is helpful to be around things that humans enjoy culturally, whether that is museums, sports stadiums, restaurants, parks and playgrounds, or just people in general. Population centers allow for critical mass of a lot of things that children enjoy that don’t exist elsewhere (one example in my case is a boys gymnastics competitive team, which is nearly impossible to find outside of cities). Perhaps most importantly my children spend almost zero time in cars, and will be afforded a freedom that I never had as a suburbanite child...the freedom to go where they want without the explicit accommodation of an adult with a drivers license. It’s also helpful for kids to be afraid of things that can likely hurt them, like cars, and not afraid of things that aren’t likely to hurt them, like black people, gay people, foreign languages, or atheists.
        • naskwo 9y ago
          This is why I moved back to the Netherlands after years in California. My children and I can bicycle most everywhere (schools, supermarkets, sports) and there is an excellent public transportation grid. The freedom afforded to teenagers by being able to safely bicycle on dedicated bike paths is hard to beat.
          • vanilla_nut 9y ago
            I realize this will probably go unseen, but as someone who was raised in the middle of nowhere by parents who refused to drive me anywhere to socialize with other kids my age... know that you're doing your children a massive favor. I wish my parents had a tenth your good sense.
• jimmaswell 9y ago
  What do you mean by vibrancy? Are grids of apartment buildings, high rises, and pigeons supposed to be more vibrant than apple orchards, nice houses, and cardinals? Yeah, cities section off squares to be parks sometimes, but it's not the same. And what's culture? Saying somewhere doesn't have culture makes as much sense as saying you don't have an accent. Where I grew up there's locally made apple cider and other apple products, good farmer's markets, locally butchered meat, the colleges have all the "arts" stuff going on that you'd want if you're into that, and there are great authentic Mexican restaurants everywhere. Being around people as a mandatory part of the living space isn't really for me. Maybe I'm just out of touch with the other "young people" my age but I've been to a few cities and I can't say I was exactly "captivated."