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How are you equating breathing to be as difficult as being physically connected to another person 24/7 exactly? Additionally because of the join angle, you can

How are you equating breathing to be as difficult as being physically connected to another person 24/7 exactly? Additionally because of the join angle, you can never hold your head straight, meaning your view of the world is constantly from a 45 angle. The world is not designed with you in mind - you cannot drive, likely not able to sit comfortably on an airplane, or even walk up stairs or go through single doors without turning to the side. Try putting food in your mouth from an angle or even having a drink. What about just sitting in a chair? And how will you have relationships with other people? Equating all this to breathing is a serious lacking of empathy on your part.

colordrops 9y ago
All they know is the angle, so their mind probably adjusts. There were experiments with a helmet that flipped your world upside down, and it turns out the brain adjusts quickly and presents things right side up. Furthermore, these girls can see out 3 or 4 eyes, depending on the girl, so you are the one stuck in a limited view of the world, not them. Regarding other limitations, yes, they are also bothersome, but if you've known nothing else, it probably isn't so bad. We all have limitations that others would find a cause for despair.
scotty79 9y ago
> you can never hold your head straight, meaning your view of the world is constantly from a 45 angle. This is completely irrelevant. Even adult brain can adjust to seeing the world upside down pretty quickly. With 45 deg angle they could have better depth perception of horizontal objects (not to mention seeing out of 3 or 4 eyes). > The world is not designed with you in mind That's the real problem although people without legs, arms or sight have worse and they manage. > not able to sit comfortably on an airplane Nobody can do THAT. Also epilepsy and diabetes probably is more inconvenient. > Try putting food in your mouth from an angle or even having a drink. I think you severly underestimate brain adaptability. One of them can use 3 legs and you wory about eating and drinking at an angle like nobody is muching and drinking through a straw lying on the side on the couch in front of the TV. >What about just sitting in a chair I think in public most chairs are in rows and at home you can put two side by side or sit on a couch. > And how will you have relationships with other people? I think that's the real problem and the diabetes and epilepsy and possibly increased chance of some circluatory problems in their brains.
always_good 9y ago
People are not incapable of everything just because they have some disability. I think your world view is a lot less emphathetic, where you wonder if they can even drink at a 45 degree angle.
astura 9y ago
Jeez, You're the one with a serious lack of empathy. People with physical disabilities aren't worthless vegetables. These twins have only experienced life this way thus it's their version of normal. Conjoined twins who live into adulthood don't have a particularly poor quality of life simply from being conjoined (rather than the health effects). They can usually learn to do most of the same things as singletons. If you ask them, many say they prefer being conjoined.[1] It's definitely personal for everyone involved. I'm reminded of the study that found quadriplegics and lottery winners having basically the same level of happiness one year later. I'm sure there are many, many challenges for them but pointing to them saying "your life is terrible, you have to drink from an angle" shows a profound lack of empathy and full and complete inability to see anything from a perspective outside your own and is quite shocking. >And how will you have relationships with other people? Like everyone else, just a little different. The famous conjoined twins known as "The Siamese Twins" that traveled with PT Barnum both married and both had double digit children each. Conjoined twins may also not feel quite as much of a need to seek out romantic relationships as singletons since they already have a life partner attached. [1] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4432870/The-life-conjoined-twins-refuse-separated.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4432870/The-life-c... >When talk of separation surgery came up, Lupita and Carmen asked their mother, 'Why would you want to cut us in half?'
pdkl95 9y ago
> The world is not designed with you in mind So what. Humans can be incredibly creative. There are problems everywhere that people overcome every day. For a brief look into the incredible ways people adapt to disabilities, I recommend watching this[1] Smarter Every Day video. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CtnrK3qx_Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CtnrK3qx_Y
- ConceptJunkie 9y ago
  Yeah, the world is also not designed for people with no legs, or people with no arms, etc. Yet people with those handicaps demonstrate amazing abilities to adapt and with the help of technology, they can overcome their limitations even better.

colordrops 9y ago

All they know is the angle, so their mind probably adjusts. There were experiments with a helmet that flipped your world upside down, and it turns out the brain adjusts quickly and presents things right side up. Furthermore, these girls can see out 3 or 4 eyes, depending on the girl, so you are the one stuck in a limited view of the world, not them. Regarding other limitations, yes, they are also bothersome, but if you've known nothing else, it probably isn't so bad. We all have limitations that others would find a cause for despair.

scotty79 9y ago

> you can never hold your head straight, meaning your view of the world is constantly from a 45 angle. This is completely irrelevant. Even adult brain can adjust to seeing the world upside down pretty quickly. With 45 deg angle they could have better depth perception of horizontal objects (not to mention seeing out of 3 or 4 eyes). > The world is not designed with you in mind That's the real problem although people without legs, arms or sight have worse and they manage. > not able to sit comfortably on an airplane Nobody can do THAT. Also epilepsy and diabetes probably is more inconvenient. > Try putting food in your mouth from an angle or even having a drink. I think you severly underestimate brain adaptability. One of them can use 3 legs and you wory about eating and drinking at an angle like nobody is muching and drinking through a straw lying on the side on the couch in front of the TV. >What about just sitting in a chair I think in public most chairs are in rows and at home you can put two side by side or sit on a couch. > And how will you have relationships with other people? I think that's the real problem and the diabetes and epilepsy and possibly increased chance of some circluatory problems in their brains.

always_good 9y ago

People are not incapable of everything just because they have some disability. I think your world view is a lot less emphathetic, where you wonder if they can even drink at a 45 degree angle.

astura 9y ago

Jeez, You're the one with a serious lack of empathy. People with physical disabilities aren't worthless vegetables. These twins have only experienced life this way thus it's their version of normal. Conjoined twins who live into adulthood don't have a particularly poor quality of life simply from being conjoined (rather than the health effects). They can usually learn to do most of the same things as singletons. If you ask them, many say they prefer being conjoined.[1] It's definitely personal for everyone involved. I'm reminded of the study that found quadriplegics and lottery winners having basically the same level of happiness one year later. I'm sure there are many, many challenges for them but pointing to them saying "your life is terrible, you have to drink from an angle" shows a profound lack of empathy and full and complete inability to see anything from a perspective outside your own and is quite shocking. >And how will you have relationships with other people? Like everyone else, just a little different. The famous conjoined twins known as "The Siamese Twins" that traveled with PT Barnum both married and both had double digit children each. Conjoined twins may also not feel quite as much of a need to seek out romantic relationships as singletons since they already have a life partner attached. [1] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4432870/The-life-conjoined-twins-refuse-separated.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4432870/The-life-c... >When talk of separation surgery came up, Lupita and Carmen asked their mother, 'Why would you want to cut us in half?'

pdkl95 9y ago

> The world is not designed with you in mind So what. Humans can be incredibly creative. There are problems everywhere that people overcome every day. For a brief look into the incredible ways people adapt to disabilities, I recommend watching this[1] Smarter Every Day video. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CtnrK3qx_Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CtnrK3qx_Y

ConceptJunkie 9y ago
Yeah, the world is also not designed for people with no legs, or people with no arms, etc. Yet people with those handicaps demonstrate amazing abilities to adapt and with the help of technology, they can overcome their limitations even better.