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MacOS 10.13 is even worse. When I tried to install update, installer crashed in the middle of installation (seems that it's common problem[1]). After I managed

by ungzd 9y ago

MacOS 10.13 is even worse. When I tried to install update, installer crashed in the middle of installation (seems that it's common problem[1]). After I managed to install it, I found out that it's extremelly slow. Time machine causes complete freeze for few seconds when starting each backup. It's literally Vista. Most issues were fixed in 10.13.1 (which installed only from second try too, each taking 2-3 hours), but, for example, Finder still has random line height that clips file icons and randomly chooses display mode for each directory. And it's supposed to "just work" so there's no way to diagnose problems. [1] https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/87690 https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/87690

brodo 9y ago
Isn't 10.13 still beta?
- pragone 9y ago
  Nope, got released 9/25
- tim333 9y ago
  Nah, went non beta Sept 25th. 10.13.2 is still beta.
anon1253 9y ago
It completely locked my drive on a Macbook Pro mid-2014. With no warning or user information, it simply wouldn't accept my password and could not log-in. I had to drop into recovery mode and use the terminal with some obscure commands from a forum post somewhere to unlock it ... talk about user friendly. Apple is really slipping in terms of QA here. Details: https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/80174 https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/80174 (it had something to do with the preboot iirc, note that this wasn't on the beta but the actual release)
- vilhelmen 9y ago
  I had disk utility telling me that my unlock password both did and did not work, and I didn't want to move forward like that. Disk utility's password prompt would do the 'ya done fucked up' wiggle at the same time the main window below it loaded partition information.
teilo 9y ago
I had constant problems with the entire laptop freezing after waking. Sometimes the freeze would result in black screen that never recovered. Sometimes it would happen a minute after the display woke up. Touchbar and touchpad would be unresponsive. Also many problems with apps using the Java.Framework, such as JetBrains IDEs having no menus. Newly installed AudioUnits plugins would not load until after a reboot (which is minor compared to the above). 10.13.2 beta seems to have resolved all these issues. I've not had a single freeze since installing this beta.
vilhelmen 9y ago
I waited for 13.1 to upgrade and login was such a mess I just didn't trust it to not be terrible elsewhere. I had to spend a whole day downgrading back to Sierra and waiting for backups to transfer. Good news, even though Apple pretends old installers don't exist after the new one is out, you can get to them from a direct app store link. Cold boot login took over a minute on a 2013 MBP that runs Sierra just fine. Something was clearly hanging 60-75% through login and crashing the display server. Function keys wouldn't work until after first login. Can't change screen brightness, keyboard backlight always off, etc. Only posts on Apple support forums were useless. Yes, I've run a disk check. No, a reboot didn't magically fix it. I've always done a disk check post-upgrade because the updater always seems to misplace >1k blocks in the filesystem after upgrading. The >console user login didn't work at all. Safe Boot looked like a broken powerpoint, is that supposed to happen? I have no idea what I'm going to do with this update. I'm lucky Time Machine didn't garble my backup sparsebundle, which happens about every six months.

by ungzd 9y ago

brodo 9y ago

Isn't 10.13 still beta?

pragone 9y ago
Nope, got released 9/25
tim333 9y ago
Nah, went non beta Sept 25th. 10.13.2 is still beta.

anon1253 9y ago

It completely locked my drive on a Macbook Pro mid-2014. With no warning or user information, it simply wouldn't accept my password and could not log-in. I had to drop into recovery mode and use the terminal with some obscure commands from a forum post somewhere to unlock it ... talk about user friendly. Apple is really slipping in terms of QA here. Details: https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/80174 https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/80174 (it had something to do with the preboot iirc, note that this wasn't on the beta but the actual release)

vilhelmen 9y ago
I had disk utility telling me that my unlock password both did and did not work, and I didn't want to move forward like that. Disk utility's password prompt would do the 'ya done fucked up' wiggle at the same time the main window below it loaded partition information.

teilo 9y ago

I had constant problems with the entire laptop freezing after waking. Sometimes the freeze would result in black screen that never recovered. Sometimes it would happen a minute after the display woke up. Touchbar and touchpad would be unresponsive. Also many problems with apps using the Java.Framework, such as JetBrains IDEs having no menus. Newly installed AudioUnits plugins would not load until after a reboot (which is minor compared to the above). 10.13.2 beta seems to have resolved all these issues. I've not had a single freeze since installing this beta.

vilhelmen 9y ago

I waited for 13.1 to upgrade and login was such a mess I just didn't trust it to not be terrible elsewhere. I had to spend a whole day downgrading back to Sierra and waiting for backups to transfer. Good news, even though Apple pretends old installers don't exist after the new one is out, you can get to them from a direct app store link. Cold boot login took over a minute on a 2013 MBP that runs Sierra just fine. Something was clearly hanging 60-75% through login and crashing the display server. Function keys wouldn't work until after first login. Can't change screen brightness, keyboard backlight always off, etc. Only posts on Apple support forums were useless. Yes, I've run a disk check. No, a reboot didn't magically fix it. I've always done a disk check post-upgrade because the updater always seems to misplace >1k blocks in the filesystem after upgrading. The >console user login didn't work at all. Safe Boot looked like a broken powerpoint, is that supposed to happen? I have no idea what I'm going to do with this update. I'm lucky Time Machine didn't garble my backup sparsebundle, which happens about every six months.