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Trump won because American democracy is twisted to overvalue rural voters, who have really fucked up and detestable values. Hillary won the actual popular vote,

Trump won because American democracy is twisted to overvalue rural voters, who have really fucked up and detestable values. Hillary won the actual popular vote, which you already know, if the pathetic approval ratings lately haven't made clear. Congrats for being on the side of the undereducated, underskilled, and xenophobic.

dang 9y ago
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- ewjordan 9y ago
  I'll accept that this may break site guidelines, and should be dinged. I don't feel too bad about posting it, though. I'm a left-center person calling out pretty standard far right nastiness that is definitely de rigeur for those types. I absolutely reject the idea that saying US rural culture is all sorts of fucked up is in any way a personal attack or flamebait. We accept all sorts of far left attacks against centrism as if they are reasonable, and while I don't agree, I don't complain.
dogruck 9y ago
You are ignorant.
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mjevans 9y ago
I'm really disappointed that you've mixed opinion and fact. The FACT that the vote of some in rural America, by design, is worth more than the vote of someone living in a city (for the race of the US presidency) is literal fact. Back when the system was designed the difference in representation strength would surely have been far less; cities were far smaller and their density within a state arguably balanced by the likelihood of someone way out in the far flung reaches to actually turn out to vote. Leave the topic of who ran last time, and also the other topic of what views some voters you might not have even met, have any due time elsewhere... (maybe a different sub-thread in this discussion).

dang 9y ago

This comment breaks the site guidelines. It's not ok to post flamebait or personal attacks, regardless of how right you are and/or wrong someone else is. We all know about the growth of online shaming culture and we all need to contribute to avoiding it on this site. If you'd read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and abide by it when commenting here, we'd appreciate it.

ewjordan 9y ago
I'll accept that this may break site guidelines, and should be dinged. I don't feel too bad about posting it, though. I'm a left-center person calling out pretty standard far right nastiness that is definitely de rigeur for those types. I absolutely reject the idea that saying US rural culture is all sorts of fucked up is in any way a personal attack or flamebait. We accept all sorts of far left attacks against centrism as if they are reasonable, and while I don't agree, I don't complain.

dogruck 9y ago

You are ignorant.

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mjevans 9y ago

I'm really disappointed that you've mixed opinion and fact. The FACT that the vote of some in rural America, by design, is worth more than the vote of someone living in a city (for the race of the US presidency) is literal fact. Back when the system was designed the difference in representation strength would surely have been far less; cities were far smaller and their density within a state arguably balanced by the likelihood of someone way out in the far flung reaches to actually turn out to vote. Leave the topic of who ran last time, and also the other topic of what views some voters you might not have even met, have any due time elsewhere... (maybe a different sub-thread in this discussion).