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In every redaction, there used to be a government employee called censor. This one read all articles are decides what can and what cannot go into print. The la
by danbruc 9y ago
In every redaction, there used to be a government employee called censor. This one read all articles are decides what can and what cannot go into print.
The law does not require checking all content, it requires checking content that has been flagged by users. So it is neither everything nor on behalf of the government.
Censor followed government wish what citizens can and cannot know.
The law requires taking offline content that is in violation of existing laws, it has nothing to do with what the government likes or not. At least unless you assume that the laws already reflect what the government likes and dislikes in which case taking offline Facebook posts is probably not your biggest concern.
This German law institutes private censors. This one will behave exactly like the same, except they will be employed by the company, under penalty.
There is certainly some justified concern that decisions over legal matters are moved into private hands but in the end that are considerations of practicality. In an ideal world a judge would check all cases but that is realistically not going to happen. So judges checking all the cases where users complain about the decisions made by private companies seems a reasonable compromise.
This is not cultural marxism, this is censorship. The rules under which censors will operate are based on political correctness, which is based on cultural marxism.
This is just vague, it doesn't really say anything. You can not really discuss anything just in terms like capitalism, political correctness, or morality where hardly a hand full of people on Earth agrees on the exact meaning.
Personally, I believe there much not be any limits to free speech. Free speech is not about what you can say - it's about what you can hear. Authoritarians are not afraid of what you can say, they are afraid of those who listen to you.
I would agree that in an ideal world there should be no limit to what you can say, in reality we will have to compromise, I guess.
- petre 9y agoIsnt't it easier to disable contributed content alogether, then go through the hassle of checking it? You'd also need a lawyer to do that. Which is probably why most German news outlets don't have comments sections.
- Toboe 9y ago>Which is probably why most German news outlets don't have comments sections. I don't have a good list of what relevant german online news outlets are, but taking a few guessed stabs at mainstream-y outlets: www.tagesschau.de/ faz.net www.focus.de www.welt.de www.spiegel.de www.zeit.de www.mdr.de all have comments on some articles www.sueddeutsche.de bild.de www.n-tv.de don't have comments on articles as far as i can see Doesn't seem like "most" to me. Am i missing something?
- kaybe 9y agoThe only point I see is that some of them are very deliberate in which articles they allow comments for. Some topics such as the refugee crisis attract really toxic and probably illegal comments and so need heavy moderation (so no commenting) while eg French election coverage is fine and commentable.
- majewsky 9y agoSome of these sites used to allow comments on all articles, then progressively cut down on the commenting functionality (blocking comments on controversial topics, requiring moderation before comments become visible etc.) following their experiences with the liberal policy. Here's a talk from a data scientist how analyzed posts and comments on spiegel.de: https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7912-spiegelmining_reverse_engineering_von_spiegel-online https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7912-spiegelmining_reverse_engin... (German video, English and French translations on separate audio tracks)