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> React is becoming a de-facto standard The Vue.JS community would beg to differ. But yeah, if JetBrains could implement something like the Rust Language Serv

> React is becoming a de-facto standard The Vue.JS community would beg to differ. But yeah, if JetBrains could implement something like the Rust Language Server for Kotlin I would be so happy.

trumpownsyou420 9y ago
lolvuejs
warent 9y ago
Agreed with this. I use both React and Vue intensively, day to day. React and Vue both have pros and cons, but I would argue it's actually easier to optimize Vue apps. Vue's reactive nature actually is superior, because something like Redux requires destroying, regenerating, and messaging around entire objects. This can create serious problems when, for example, trying to use Chrome APIs or manage component renders. Also, although JSX is nice for developers, it's not friendly to designers. Vue, however, supports single file components that are very designer-friendly. FWIW, Alibaba began creating their own native framework with Vue called Weex, which is now part of the Apache project. https://weex.apache.org/ https://weex.apache.org/
- acemarke 9y ago
  Can you clarify how Redux causes issues in those scenarios?
- yawaramin 9y ago
  Redux is not actually necessary for React, you can manage state without it.
bitL 9y ago
I'll take a look at Vue.JS, thanks! Is there a way to use it from Kotlin or some other "sane" language as well?
- nameless912 9y ago
  It has pretty decent TypeScript bindings iirc, but the fundamental thing it does is prevent the need to mix HTML and JS inline. If you can hold your nose at Javascript, most of the project generators for Vue.JS seem to prefer using ES6/ESnext syntax so the language is much more tolerable than, e.g. Angular and Circa-2007 JavaScript.
jhall1468 9y ago
Well they can disagree, but React is vastly larger (in both usage and community), so I would say his comment stands.
mlsarecmg 9y ago
Beg to differ it can, but as it stands the statement is correct. http://www.npmtrends.com/angular-vs-react-vs-vue-vs-@angular/core http://www.npmtrends.com/angular-vs-react-vs-vue-vs-@angular... Even more so when you consider that Vue itself is a React clone underneath. Templates compile directly into createElement calls internally and if you'd strip off Vue's outward complexity, the api surface, the syntax parsers, the observable system, etc., what would remain is React.

> React is becoming a de-facto standard The Vue.JS community would beg to differ. But yeah, if JetBrains could implement something like the Rust Language Server for Kotlin I would be so happy.

trumpownsyou420 9y ago

lolvuejs

warent 9y ago

Agreed with this. I use both React and Vue intensively, day to day. React and Vue both have pros and cons, but I would argue it's actually easier to optimize Vue apps. Vue's reactive nature actually is superior, because something like Redux requires destroying, regenerating, and messaging around entire objects. This can create serious problems when, for example, trying to use Chrome APIs or manage component renders. Also, although JSX is nice for developers, it's not friendly to designers. Vue, however, supports single file components that are very designer-friendly. FWIW, Alibaba began creating their own native framework with Vue called Weex, which is now part of the Apache project. https://weex.apache.org/ https://weex.apache.org/

acemarke 9y ago
Can you clarify how Redux causes issues in those scenarios?
yawaramin 9y ago
Redux is not actually necessary for React, you can manage state without it.

bitL 9y ago

I'll take a look at Vue.JS, thanks! Is there a way to use it from Kotlin or some other "sane" language as well?

nameless912 9y ago
It has pretty decent TypeScript bindings iirc, but the fundamental thing it does is prevent the need to mix HTML and JS inline. If you can hold your nose at Javascript, most of the project generators for Vue.JS seem to prefer using ES6/ESnext syntax so the language is much more tolerable than, e.g. Angular and Circa-2007 JavaScript.

jhall1468 9y ago

Well they can disagree, but React is vastly larger (in both usage and community), so I would say his comment stands.

mlsarecmg 9y ago

Beg to differ it can, but as it stands the statement is correct. http://www.npmtrends.com/angular-vs-react-vs-vue-vs-@angular/core http://www.npmtrends.com/angular-vs-react-vs-vue-vs-@angular... Even more so when you consider that Vue itself is a React clone underneath. Templates compile directly into createElement calls internally and if you'd strip off Vue's outward complexity, the api surface, the syntax parsers, the observable system, etc., what would remain is React.