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Yep at the moment they do, and they will continue to, but that has nothing to do with the fact that historically those in the industry voted Democratic not Repu

Yep at the moment they do, and they will continue to, but that has nothing to do with the fact that historically those in the industry voted Democratic not Republican. The lack of reality among some around here does amaze me

ceejayoz 9y ago
Sure it does. People always look for someone to blame for something like this, and the Republicans capitalized on that fact with the "war on coal" narrative. Not shocking it worked.
- ZoeZoeBee 9y ago
  >I'd try to consider it from their perspective, but I get confused by the part where they vote overwhelmingly Republican to protect their union jobs and government subsidies. Ok, read the parent. Appalachian Miners do not vote overwhelmingly Republican to protect their union jobs and government subsidies. For the longest time they voted Democratic to Protect their Union Jobs and Government subsides until their jobs were no longer there. Their jobs aren't coming back, that's a given, and the reaction to that was to stop voting for the people they thought would protect their way of living, only to see a shift over the last decade where their voice was completely drowned out in the Democratic party
CalChris 9y ago
And historically those miners had jobs. However the loss of their jobs had nothing to do with sanctuary cities, abortion, second amendment rights or any other wedge issue but their party switch did.
- ZoeZoeBee 9y ago
  However you do realize that sanctuary cities, abortion, second amendment rights or any other wedge issue those in Appalachia did not stand with the Democratic party on and voted for their own interests when it came to employment edit @CalChris Because your reading comprehension is not the best. They voted for their own economic interests by voting Democratic. You do realize in 2008 both of WVs Senators were Dems and so was their governor. Since the Depression the vast majority of West Virginia's Senate seats have been filled by Dems
  - ceejayoz 9y ago
    > voted for their own interests when it came to employment And they'll find themselves with no long-term improvement in employment, and a dramatically weaker safety net as a bonus.
  - CalChris 9y ago
    Perhaps you can explain how WV voted for their own interests when it came to employment. Their unemployment rate rose dramatically with W's 2008 Great Recession and then steadily fell during the Obama years. https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LASST540000000000004_2007_2017_all_period_M09_data_unemployment%2Brate.gif https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers... Looks more like Cheeto took them for a ride. He does that. Is WV voting its interest in the opioid crisis? I don't think more guns, gays and god will get them out of it.
    - catawbasam 9y ago
      Dem here, but I haven't seen a whole lot of priority given by my party to opioids. Back pre-Trump there was much more attention being given to Transgender kids and sexual assault of college women. When people are despised and neglected, they tend to notice.
      - CalChris 9y ago
        Another Dem here. The opioid crisis starts in 2010. The Republicans took over the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014. Congress then grounded to a halt and broadly rejected anything Obama proposed even going so far as to shut down the government. Congress is still halted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%3AOverdose_Deaths_Involving_Opioids%2C_United_States%2C_2000-2015.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%... Not sure why the governing party isn’t being held responsible for, you know, governing. The transgender kids and sexual assault of college women coverage was on Fox. Again, guns, gays and god ain’t gonna get us out of this. But it will deliver the votes in places like WV.
        9y ago

ceejayoz 9y ago

Sure it does. People always look for someone to blame for something like this, and the Republicans capitalized on that fact with the "war on coal" narrative. Not shocking it worked.

ZoeZoeBee 9y ago
>I'd try to consider it from their perspective, but I get confused by the part where they vote overwhelmingly Republican to protect their union jobs and government subsidies. Ok, read the parent. Appalachian Miners do not vote overwhelmingly Republican to protect their union jobs and government subsidies. For the longest time they voted Democratic to Protect their Union Jobs and Government subsides until their jobs were no longer there. Their jobs aren't coming back, that's a given, and the reaction to that was to stop voting for the people they thought would protect their way of living, only to see a shift over the last decade where their voice was completely drowned out in the Democratic party

CalChris 9y ago

And historically those miners had jobs. However the loss of their jobs had nothing to do with sanctuary cities, abortion, second amendment rights or any other wedge issue but their party switch did.

ZoeZoeBee 9y ago
However you do realize that sanctuary cities, abortion, second amendment rights or any other wedge issue those in Appalachia did not stand with the Democratic party on and voted for their own interests when it came to employment edit @CalChris Because your reading comprehension is not the best. They voted for their own economic interests by voting Democratic. You do realize in 2008 both of WVs Senators were Dems and so was their governor. Since the Depression the vast majority of West Virginia's Senate seats have been filled by Dems
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  > voted for their own interests when it came to employment And they'll find themselves with no long-term improvement in employment, and a dramatically weaker safety net as a bonus.
- CalChris 9y ago
  Perhaps you can explain how WV voted for their own interests when it came to employment. Their unemployment rate rose dramatically with W's 2008 Great Recession and then steadily fell during the Obama years. https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LASST540000000000004_2007_2017_all_period_M09_data_unemployment%2Brate.gif https://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers... Looks more like Cheeto took them for a ride. He does that. Is WV voting its interest in the opioid crisis? I don't think more guns, gays and god will get them out of it.
  - catawbasam 9y ago
    Dem here, but I haven't seen a whole lot of priority given by my party to opioids. Back pre-Trump there was much more attention being given to Transgender kids and sexual assault of college women. When people are despised and neglected, they tend to notice.
    - CalChris 9y ago
      Another Dem here. The opioid crisis starts in 2010. The Republicans took over the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014. Congress then grounded to a halt and broadly rejected anything Obama proposed even going so far as to shut down the government. Congress is still halted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%3AOverdose_Deaths_Involving_Opioids%2C_United_States%2C_2000-2015.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic#/media/File%... Not sure why the governing party isn’t being held responsible for, you know, governing. The transgender kids and sexual assault of college women coverage was on Fox. Again, guns, gays and god ain’t gonna get us out of this. But it will deliver the votes in places like WV.
      - 9y ago