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The Cocotron

55 points by rayascott 9y ago

bitshiffed 9y ago
Is there something new going on with Cocotron? Seems like it was all but abandoned years ago.
- deusum 9y ago
  The Cocotron (2006) ...might be a better title.
  - ianai 9y ago
    Maybe the posters hoping someone will revive it.
    - jacobush 9y ago
      I wonder if it works still. Being able to compile for Linux and Windows from the same Xcode project would be really nice.
      - robterrell 9y ago
        Last time I tried, it did, but it was a lot of work to get running with the version of Xcode at that time. The mailing list had a lot of details on what needs to be done to get the toolchain up and running. It was a tough slog but I did get it working. It's worth noting that Microsoft used a lot of Cocotron for their WinObjC porting project. Depending on your needs it might be worth a look. I was porting a desktop Mac app, so it was less useful.
badsectoracula 9y ago
Judging from GitHub, it looks kinda dead [1]. GNUstep for Windows [2] might be a better choice (and more likely to be up to date and complete since it is still in active development) to port something from macOS. Although you may need to have some GNUstep libraries on the system to run the application (or install them alongside your application). In traditional GNUstep fashion, it is unclear from their site what exactly is needed and why and gives the impression that you need to install the entire GNUstep just to run a simple application. [1] https://github.com/cjwl/cocotron https://github.com/cjwl/cocotron [2] http://www.gnustep.org/windows/installer.html http://www.gnustep.org/windows/installer.html
- Jasper_ 9y ago
  There's also the WinObjC project from Microsoft: https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC
  - armadsen 9y ago
    This is the one to use. Worth noting that Microsoft took a fair bit of the original source for this project from The Cocotron.
    - pjmlp 9y ago
      Not really. The focus of the project died with WP.
  - fithisux 9y ago
    Which lacks a detailed quick start guide. Do they still require visual studio for development?
adamnemecek 9y ago
The project is very much moribund but I've used it to see how some things might be implemented.
evadne 9y ago
Obligatory plug for Cappuccino http://www.cappuccino-project.org http://www.cappuccino-project.org the original Cocoa for Web.
waynecochran 9y ago
What is the formula that HN uses that this reaches the front page?
- grzm 9y ago
  From the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html > "How are stories ranked?" > "The basic algorithm divides points by a power of the time since a story was submitted. Comments in comment threads are ranked the same way." > "Other factors affecting rank include user flags, anti-abuse software, software which downweights overheated discussions, and moderator intervention."

The Cocotron

55 points by rayascott 9y ago

bitshiffed 9y ago

Is there something new going on with Cocotron? Seems like it was all but abandoned years ago.

deusum 9y ago
The Cocotron (2006) ...might be a better title.
- ianai 9y ago
  Maybe the posters hoping someone will revive it.
  - jacobush 9y ago
    I wonder if it works still. Being able to compile for Linux and Windows from the same Xcode project would be really nice.
    - robterrell 9y ago
      Last time I tried, it did, but it was a lot of work to get running with the version of Xcode at that time. The mailing list had a lot of details on what needs to be done to get the toolchain up and running. It was a tough slog but I did get it working. It's worth noting that Microsoft used a lot of Cocotron for their WinObjC porting project. Depending on your needs it might be worth a look. I was porting a desktop Mac app, so it was less useful.

badsectoracula 9y ago

Judging from GitHub, it looks kinda dead [1]. GNUstep for Windows [2] might be a better choice (and more likely to be up to date and complete since it is still in active development) to port something from macOS. Although you may need to have some GNUstep libraries on the system to run the application (or install them alongside your application). In traditional GNUstep fashion, it is unclear from their site what exactly is needed and why and gives the impression that you need to install the entire GNUstep just to run a simple application. [1] https://github.com/cjwl/cocotron https://github.com/cjwl/cocotron [2] http://www.gnustep.org/windows/installer.html http://www.gnustep.org/windows/installer.html

Jasper_ 9y ago
There's also the WinObjC project from Microsoft: https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC
- armadsen 9y ago
  This is the one to use. Worth noting that Microsoft took a fair bit of the original source for this project from The Cocotron.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    Not really. The focus of the project died with WP.
- fithisux 9y ago
  Which lacks a detailed quick start guide. Do they still require visual studio for development?

adamnemecek 9y ago

The project is very much moribund but I've used it to see how some things might be implemented.

evadne 9y ago

Obligatory plug for Cappuccino http://www.cappuccino-project.org http://www.cappuccino-project.org the original Cocoa for Web.

waynecochran 9y ago

What is the formula that HN uses that this reaches the front page?

grzm 9y ago
From the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html > "How are stories ranked?" > "The basic algorithm divides points by a power of the time since a story was submitted. Comments in comment threads are ranked the same way." > "Other factors affecting rank include user flags, anti-abuse software, software which downweights overheated discussions, and moderator intervention."