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iOS is a toy OS. The notifications alone make it useless for office productivity. The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix sync. You

iOS is a toy OS. The notifications alone make it useless for office productivity. The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix sync. You can't watch a YouTube video while doing something else. Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. You can't even do basic things like set a system-wide default browser. Android O is light years ahead of iOS.

xxpor 9y ago
>Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. This is a feature, not a bug.
- Bahamut 9y ago
  That is something I don’t miss at all from Android after abandoning Android for iOS 3 years ago (Samsung started locking down their phones with the Galaxy S5, decided I wanted no more part of Samsung bloatware and losing the ability to rid myself of it).
- damnyou 9y ago
  Chat heads are a great feature, and of course you can turn them off if you like. iOS doesn't even give you the option to do that.
  - mcphage 9y ago
    Chat heads are a terrible feature, and now that you told me I can turn them off I’m going to go do that immediately.
    - mbo 9y ago
      What's your main issue with them? Aren't they just a superior version of the "reply-in-notification" feature of iOS?
      - mcphage 9y ago
        The reply-in-notifications go away after I've replied, they don't hang around and cover a portion of the screen all the time. And if I don't want to read them right away, then I've got this thing hanging around on my screen with a angry red number that I don't want to deal with. They're intrusive, they're obnoxious, they cause performance hiccups on occasion. They're not a superior version of anything.
  - raarts 9y ago
    I had to google it, they look pretty distracting to me, but I'm positive that if they turn out to be very useful Apple will release an API for it.
    - leadingthenet 9y ago
      They haven't in years and I pray every day that it stays that way.
threeseed 9y ago
1) The limitations on background processing are deliberate to prevent applications from needlessly consuming battery life/mobile data. 2) It is Google's fault that you can't watch YouTube whilst doing something else. Apple provided an API which third party YouTube clients already support. You can debate whether Android O is better or not. But I would hardly call iOS a toy just because it doesn't allow for rich notifications.
- damnyou 9y ago
  You can't do PIP on an iPhone.
Tehnix 9y ago
> The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix You can quit e easily watch Plex (can’t remember if Netflix bothered) in the background while doing other shut with the PIP. > you can’t watch a YouTube video either. Which is YouTube’s fault ENTITELY. They are pushing YouTube red to allow for this (which isn’t even available in a lot of countries they advertise it in....)
- damnyou 9y ago
  I said Plex or Netflix sync specifically. Having to keep the app open while a 20 minute sync is going on is bone-headed. PIP is not available on an iPhone.
dawnerd 9y ago
Found the android fanboy. Sounds like you haven’t used iOS recently.
ggg9990 9y ago
The limitations on background processing are exactly why I prefer iOS. When something is acting funny, the foreground app is always the culprit, and killing it fixes the problem. I don't want to do any more complicated debugging than that on a four inch touchscreen.
Bud 9y ago
The notifications you are complaining about can be easily, and completely, disabled. In a few seconds. I don't think you've used iOS 11 on a recent iPad, either.
- damnyou 9y ago
  Surely properly done, prioritized, aggregated notifications like on Android are better than no notifications? I'm talking about an iPhone obviously.
austenallred 9y ago
What “office productivity” are you unable to do using iOS? Pretty sure millions of people use it just fine.
- damnyou 9y ago
  What happens when you receive 100+ new email notifications on iOS? I ended up ignoring all of them, missing out on important notifications. Notification aggregation and priority is table stakes for serious office work.
  - acdha 9y ago
    If you’re regularly getting 100+ notifications you need to setup filters, change your notification settings, or find a new job.
    - damnyou 9y ago
      Or you know, just use an Android phone. Apple zealots are the fucking worst. Your phone makers are too incompetent to implement notifications properly, so your solution is to find a new job.
      - ReverseCold 9y ago
        Just curious, why are you getting 100+ emails at once that you can't filter into a low priority/no notification inbox?
        damnyou 9y ago
        The most common case is overnight with a geographically distributed team.
        acdha 9y ago
        How does that many notifications help? Isn’t it enough to see a ton of email and open an email client which does all of that aggregation for you?

xxpor 9y ago

>Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. This is a feature, not a bug.

Bahamut 9y ago
That is something I don’t miss at all from Android after abandoning Android for iOS 3 years ago (Samsung started locking down their phones with the Galaxy S5, decided I wanted no more part of Samsung bloatware and losing the ability to rid myself of it).
damnyou 9y ago
Chat heads are a great feature, and of course you can turn them off if you like. iOS doesn't even give you the option to do that.
- mcphage 9y ago
  Chat heads are a terrible feature, and now that you told me I can turn them off I’m going to go do that immediately.
  - mbo 9y ago
    What's your main issue with them? Aren't they just a superior version of the "reply-in-notification" feature of iOS?
    - mcphage 9y ago
      The reply-in-notifications go away after I've replied, they don't hang around and cover a portion of the screen all the time. And if I don't want to read them right away, then I've got this thing hanging around on my screen with a angry red number that I don't want to deal with. They're intrusive, they're obnoxious, they cause performance hiccups on occasion. They're not a superior version of anything.
- raarts 9y ago
  I had to google it, they look pretty distracting to me, but I'm positive that if they turn out to be very useful Apple will release an API for it.
  - leadingthenet 9y ago
    They haven't in years and I pray every day that it stays that way.

threeseed 9y ago

1) The limitations on background processing are deliberate to prevent applications from needlessly consuming battery life/mobile data. 2) It is Google's fault that you can't watch YouTube whilst doing something else. Apple provided an API which third party YouTube clients already support. You can debate whether Android O is better or not. But I would hardly call iOS a toy just because it doesn't allow for rich notifications.

damnyou 9y ago
You can't do PIP on an iPhone.

Tehnix 9y ago

> The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix You can quit e easily watch Plex (can’t remember if Netflix bothered) in the background while doing other shut with the PIP. > you can’t watch a YouTube video either. Which is YouTube’s fault ENTITELY. They are pushing YouTube red to allow for this (which isn’t even available in a lot of countries they advertise it in....)

damnyou 9y ago
I said Plex or Netflix sync specifically. Having to keep the app open while a 20 minute sync is going on is bone-headed. PIP is not available on an iPhone.

dawnerd 9y ago

Found the android fanboy. Sounds like you haven’t used iOS recently.

ggg9990 9y ago

The limitations on background processing are exactly why I prefer iOS. When something is acting funny, the foreground app is always the culprit, and killing it fixes the problem. I don't want to do any more complicated debugging than that on a four inch touchscreen.

Bud 9y ago

The notifications you are complaining about can be easily, and completely, disabled. In a few seconds. I don't think you've used iOS 11 on a recent iPad, either.

damnyou 9y ago
Surely properly done, prioritized, aggregated notifications like on Android are better than no notifications? I'm talking about an iPhone obviously.

austenallred 9y ago

What “office productivity” are you unable to do using iOS? Pretty sure millions of people use it just fine.

damnyou 9y ago
What happens when you receive 100+ new email notifications on iOS? I ended up ignoring all of them, missing out on important notifications. Notification aggregation and priority is table stakes for serious office work.
- acdha 9y ago
  If you’re regularly getting 100+ notifications you need to setup filters, change your notification settings, or find a new job.
  - damnyou 9y ago
    Or you know, just use an Android phone. Apple zealots are the fucking worst. Your phone makers are too incompetent to implement notifications properly, so your solution is to find a new job.
    - ReverseCold 9y ago
      Just curious, why are you getting 100+ emails at once that you can't filter into a low priority/no notification inbox?
      - damnyou 9y ago
        The most common case is overnight with a geographically distributed team.
        acdha 9y ago
        How does that many notifications help? Isn’t it enough to see a ton of email and open an email client which does all of that aggregation for you?