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> Generation X (and even more so generation Y) are cultures of immediate gratification uh huh. thanks for that. Does this guy even remember his 20s anymore?
by rrhd 9y ago
> Generation X (and even more so generation Y) are cultures of immediate gratification
uh huh. thanks for that.
Does this guy even remember his 20s anymore?
> I’ve worked with a staggering number of engineers that expect the “career path” to take them to the highest ranks of the engineering group inside 5 years just because they are smart. This is simply impossible in the staggering numbers I’ve witnessed
Pretty common at the big companies. 5 years is quick, but it's the start of when people start to hit senior in larger numbers.
If you won't give them something, someone else will. Remember that, and maybe reconsider your biases.
> What then? “Super engineer”? Five more years? “Super-duper engineer
Depending on where you are, staff/principal/distinguished/fellow/partner/etc...
If your engineering ladder ends at Senior that's a failure on your part honestly.
When is it appropriate to call someone a senior engineer? When they hit 65? When they are the most experienced engineer left? When they come in and announce that they are no longer going to attempt to expand their skills in any way?
If you want to stick in SE 1-6 before senior then go ahead. It seems like what the complain is really against the the typical bands we see at a lot of companies nowadays.
- dozzie 9y agoIt's really nice to be able to call yourself senior after mere five years, when you haven't even seen a quarter of the possible deployment scenarios, much less seen their long-term results. You can't find anything like that in any other skill-based profession.
- rrhd 9y agoAnd yet companies worth hundreds of billions had put the title to people after that long every cycle. Complaining about this is putting way too much emphasis on naming.
- dozzie 9y agoIf only this naming wasn't treated seriously on its own.
- bradknowles 9y agoThe rule in computer science is that naming is one of the two hardest problems that we face. Which is why it is really important to get it right, or at least make a serious attempt to do so.
- bradknowles 9y agoI remember my twenties. I worked at the same job (shelving books in a library) for almost five years. That’s longer than I’ve worked at any other job. In this field, people now expect to change employers every two to three years, with commensurate pay raises and title increases. That kind of rapid inflation only gets you so far before that bubble bursts.