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IMO the problem today is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation. I can not imagine that lack of

by gepi79 9y ago

IMO the problem today is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation. I can not imagine that lack of babies could ever become a problem for humanity until humans decide to build humans so that the "natural human species" dies out. The solution for the aging population: - Automation. - Biochemical solutions and genetic engineering to remain/become capable. Replacement of natural body parts by machine body parts.

grondilu 9y ago
> IMO the problem today is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation. Worrying about overpopulation is short-sighted. Also, no matter what kind of problems overpopulation brings, it's hard to imagine how that could lead to extinction, which is what we were discussing.
- gepi79 9y ago
  Overpopulation is a problem right now. I mentioned overpopulation as reply to the fear of too few babies. I hope that poverty and the culture to have as many children as possible will not exist anymore after 2030 CE.
  - toasterlovin 9y ago
    I would view the comfortable lives of humans in the developed world as a very peculiar circumstance, not as something which will persist as the norm. Life expands to consume all available resources. Humans are part of the lineage that we call life. That we are poorly adapted to modern life is just a temporary state of affairs. Though many people are opting out of large families, not all are. And the people who aren't are the future of the species.
    - muninn_ 9y ago
      You're right - it is a very peculiar circumstance and one that is increasingly impossible to achieve on large scale because of overpopulation. No matter what way you slice it, more people means fewer resources per person. We need to find a way to reduce growing populations in the United States, China, India South East Asia in general, and Africa.
- mattrices 9y ago
  Overpopulation is frequently the cause of steep popuation decline (90+%) in ecology due to input resource depletion and the building of toxins that are the end products of that species metabolism. Pollution and resource scarcity are the obvious limits that can send population numbers off a cliff.

by gepi79 9y ago

grondilu 9y ago

> IMO the problem today is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation. Worrying about overpopulation is short-sighted. Also, no matter what kind of problems overpopulation brings, it's hard to imagine how that could lead to extinction, which is what we were discussing.

gepi79 9y ago
Overpopulation is a problem right now. I mentioned overpopulation as reply to the fear of too few babies. I hope that poverty and the culture to have as many children as possible will not exist anymore after 2030 CE.
- toasterlovin 9y ago
  I would view the comfortable lives of humans in the developed world as a very peculiar circumstance, not as something which will persist as the norm. Life expands to consume all available resources. Humans are part of the lineage that we call life. That we are poorly adapted to modern life is just a temporary state of affairs. Though many people are opting out of large families, not all are. And the people who aren't are the future of the species.
  - muninn_ 9y ago
    You're right - it is a very peculiar circumstance and one that is increasingly impossible to achieve on large scale because of overpopulation. No matter what way you slice it, more people means fewer resources per person. We need to find a way to reduce growing populations in the United States, China, India South East Asia in general, and Africa.
mattrices 9y ago
Overpopulation is frequently the cause of steep popuation decline (90+%) in ecology due to input resource depletion and the building of toxins that are the end products of that species metabolism. Pollution and resource scarcity are the obvious limits that can send population numbers off a cliff.