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I'm OK being "instantly" terminated as long as you pay me for the duration of the notice period.

dogruck 9y ago
I agree with you, but many people do not share our view. The general counter argument is that if you make it difficult for companies to terminate employees, then companies will search for alternate mechanisms to sustain profitability. For example, instead of terminating an employee, the company might reduce executive pay, or pass the increased expenses on to customers. Again, I agree with you.
- pjc50 9y ago
  > instead of terminating an employee, the company might reduce executive pay, Well that won't happen. Apart from a few cases where executives agree to take all their compensation in equity to rescue a failing business, they tend to pay themselves first, sometimes at the cost of the long term health of the business. Philip Green / BHS is the example that comes to mind.
  - dogruck 9y ago
    To be fair, your example is not a counterpoint because the company also collapsed. I think you’d have to show examples where a company: 1. Was not allowed to fire employees, 2. Executives did not take a pay cut, 3. The company continued to do well.
    - pjc50 9y ago
      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jun/27/sir-philip-green-main-bhs-sale-pension-regulator-report https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jun/27/sir-philip-... > it had found that “the main purpose of the sale of BHS was to postpone BHS’s insolvency to prevent a liability to the schemes falling due while it was part of the Taveta group of companies ultimately owned by the Green family, and/or that the effect of the sale was materially detrimental to the schemes.” IE, Green underfunded the pension scheme in order to pay himself several hundred million pounds, and then sold the company off to escape liability for it. He "voluntarily" paid back £363 million in order to end an investigation that might have resulted in him being jailed.

I agree with you, but many people do not share our view. The general counter argument is that if you make it difficult for companies to terminate employees, then companies will search for alternate mechanisms to sustain profitability. For example, instead of terminating an employee, the company might reduce executive pay, or pass the increased expenses on to customers. Again, I agree with you.

pjc50 9y ago
> instead of terminating an employee, the company might reduce executive pay, Well that won't happen. Apart from a few cases where executives agree to take all their compensation in equity to rescue a failing business, they tend to pay themselves first, sometimes at the cost of the long term health of the business. Philip Green / BHS is the example that comes to mind.
- dogruck 9y ago
  To be fair, your example is not a counterpoint because the company also collapsed. I think you’d have to show examples where a company: 1. Was not allowed to fire employees, 2. Executives did not take a pay cut, 3. The company continued to do well.
  - pjc50 9y ago
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jun/27/sir-philip-green-main-bhs-sale-pension-regulator-report https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jun/27/sir-philip-... > it had found that “the main purpose of the sale of BHS was to postpone BHS’s insolvency to prevent a liability to the schemes falling due while it was part of the Taveta group of companies ultimately owned by the Green family, and/or that the effect of the sale was materially detrimental to the schemes.” IE, Green underfunded the pension scheme in order to pay himself several hundred million pounds, and then sold the company off to escape liability for it. He "voluntarily" paid back £363 million in order to end an investigation that might have resulted in him being jailed.