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> Solutions should be.... Is solution even possible? SF simply does not want a change and immigrants. Lets build new Silicon Valley somewhere else... I am in

> Solutions should be.... Is solution even possible? SF simply does not want a change and immigrants. Lets build new Silicon Valley somewhere else... I am in Berlin right now, and it is way more relaxed here.

rwmj 9y ago
Or just work remotely. The vast majority of SV work does not require physical presence.
- rbanffy 9y ago
  This ends up being sub-optimal. It's great to have physical presence to aid communication with your co-workers and, in some positions, that's pretty much essential. I've been part of remote teams a lot and the most productive times we had were when we all flew somewhere to be in the same room for a couple weeks.
  - jankotek 9y ago
    Personal preference. In my experience most employers can not even provide good office space and hardware. I am way more productive at home.
  - notacoward 9y ago
    One good anecdote deserves another. I've been a remote worker continuously for several years. While getting together physically for brief high-intensity sessions can be great for productivity, I've found that being with others continuously even through long low-intensity periods has the opposite effect. Most of my work requires focus more than anything, and the interrupt/distraction load associated with colocation destroys that focus. Most of the other full-time long-term remote workers I've known have made similar observations. Being alone all the time might be sub-optimal, but so is being with others all the time (especially for introverts).
- chrisco255 9y ago
  Not true. You are saying this only in theory, not because companies actually offer this as a choice to folks. Many companies in SV have a strong belief that colocation is key to productivity. Whether that's true or not, another discussion, but most folks do not have a choice wrt remote work.

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> Solutions should be.... Is solution even possible? SF simply does not want a change and immigrants. Lets build new Silicon Valley somewhere else... I am in

by jankotek 9y ago

rwmj 9y ago
Or just work remotely. The vast majority of SV work does not require physical presence.
- rbanffy 9y ago
  This ends up being sub-optimal. It's great to have physical presence to aid communication with your co-workers and, in some positions, that's pretty much essential. I've been part of remote teams a lot and the most productive times we had were when we all flew somewhere to be in the same room for a couple weeks.
  - jankotek 9y ago
    Personal preference. In my experience most employers can not even provide good office space and hardware. I am way more productive at home.
  - notacoward 9y ago
    One good anecdote deserves another. I've been a remote worker continuously for several years. While getting together physically for brief high-intensity sessions can be great for productivity, I've found that being with others continuously even through long low-intensity periods has the opposite effect. Most of my work requires focus more than anything, and the interrupt/distraction load associated with colocation destroys that focus. Most of the other full-time long-term remote workers I've known have made similar observations. Being alone all the time might be sub-optimal, but so is being with others all the time (especially for introverts).
- chrisco255 9y ago
  Not true. You are saying this only in theory, not because companies actually offer this as a choice to folks. Many companies in SV have a strong belief that colocation is key to productivity. Whether that's true or not, another discussion, but most folks do not have a choice wrt remote work.