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This person killed 8 innocent people by plowing into them with a car. If one of those persons was a loved one of your own, would you want him to get the death p

This person killed 8 innocent people by plowing into them with a car. If one of those persons was a loved one of your own, would you want him to get the death penalty?

ProAm 9y ago
Im just arguing that Twitter has a Code of Conduct [1] and Trump definitely falls across that line frequently, I could easily see how he should be banned but probably has special privilege as for he is solely responsible for saving the business from demise. [1] https://support.twitter.com/articles/20175050# https://support.twitter.com/articles/20175050#
- nodesocket 9y ago
  Sure, but I think you're missing the bigger point. It's not about Twitter's business, it's about free speech and the fact that he is the fairly elected president of the United States. You can't pick and choose. I'm sure I'll continue to get downvoted though.
  - kbenson 9y ago
    You're getting downvoted because your reply was a non sequitur. Nobody was making a claim as to whether he should have said what he said, just that it might have triggered some automatic controls in place at Twitter that might have contributed to this event.
  - ProAm 9y ago
    > It's not about Twitter's business, it's about free speech You're incorrect here, for Twitter it's 100% about business, money and relevancy.
  - jonknee 9y ago
    This isn’t about free speech, Twitter can kick Trump off its platform for whatever reason they want, including that the President of the United States is breaking their TOS. It’s their platform, the President isn’t required to get special treatment.
- creaghpatr 9y ago
  Twitters TOS are already selectively enforced so it’s a logical step to extend a privilege to a VIP account (in the revenue sense)
chris_7 9y ago
No, that's sick. Civilized states like New York don't execute people, only the federal government can do so here (in an arguable violation of the "states' rights" that Republicans hold so dearly).
- nodesocket 9y ago
  I'm sorry we can disagree then, but if somebody ran over and killed one of my loved ones and seven other innocent people purely because they despise American's, I'd want the death penalty for that person.
  - ProAm 9y ago
    You can want it, and say it, but not on Twitter and that was the point. He probably got temp banned for violating their Code of Conduct in regards to Hateful Conduct.
    - remarkEon 9y ago
      >He probably got temp banned for violating their Code of Conduct in regards to Hateful Conduct. This is such a garbage standard. It simply amounts to any speech whoever is running the support team that day doesn't like.
    - nodesocket 9y ago
      > He probably got temp banned for violating their Code of Conduct in regards to Hateful Conduct. Nope. It was intentional. Employee's last day.
krapp 9y ago
>If one of those persons was a loved one of your own, would you want him to get the death penalty? Probably, but none of them were Trump's loved ones, so your appeal to emotion is irrelevant in his case. As President, Trump is supposed to respect the rule of law and the rights of American citizens (all of them, even the mass-murdering terrorists) not call for their summary execution in all caps like a rageposting lunatic.
- interfixus 9y ago
  Other points notwithstanding, Sayfullo Saipov is not an American citizen.
  - nodesocket 9y ago
    > Saipov came to the United States in 2010 on a diversity visa, the Department of Homeland Security said. He has since become a legal permanent resident. While not a "citizen" essentially, excluding voting rights.
    - interfixus 9y ago
      So, not a citizen.
      - krapp 9y ago
        Fair enough, then. Is he subject to American laws? Does he have the protection of the same Constitutional and legal rights as any American, including presumption of innocence and a fair trial?
        interfixus 9y ago
        I have no idea. I am not an American. Merely pointing out that he is not a citizen, which grandparent comment vaguely suggested that he was.
        creaghpatr 9y ago
brandon272 9y ago
> If one of those persons was a loved one of your own, would you want him to get the death penalty? No, I wouldn't. That seems like an easy way out for them. Why should I have to live a life of pain and suffering from my loss and they don't?

This person killed 8 innocent people by plowing into them with a car. If one of those persons was a loved one of your own, would you want him to get the death penalty?

ProAm 9y ago

Im just arguing that Twitter has a Code of Conduct [1] and Trump definitely falls across that line frequently, I could easily see how he should be banned but probably has special privilege as for he is solely responsible for saving the business from demise. [1] https://support.twitter.com/articles/20175050# https://support.twitter.com/articles/20175050#

nodesocket 9y ago
Sure, but I think you're missing the bigger point. It's not about Twitter's business, it's about free speech and the fact that he is the fairly elected president of the United States. You can't pick and choose. I'm sure I'll continue to get downvoted though.
- kbenson 9y ago
  You're getting downvoted because your reply was a non sequitur. Nobody was making a claim as to whether he should have said what he said, just that it might have triggered some automatic controls in place at Twitter that might have contributed to this event.
- ProAm 9y ago
  > It's not about Twitter's business, it's about free speech You're incorrect here, for Twitter it's 100% about business, money and relevancy.
- jonknee 9y ago
  This isn’t about free speech, Twitter can kick Trump off its platform for whatever reason they want, including that the President of the United States is breaking their TOS. It’s their platform, the President isn’t required to get special treatment.
creaghpatr 9y ago
Twitters TOS are already selectively enforced so it’s a logical step to extend a privilege to a VIP account (in the revenue sense)

chris_7 9y ago

No, that's sick. Civilized states like New York don't execute people, only the federal government can do so here (in an arguable violation of the "states' rights" that Republicans hold so dearly).

nodesocket 9y ago
I'm sorry we can disagree then, but if somebody ran over and killed one of my loved ones and seven other innocent people purely because they despise American's, I'd want the death penalty for that person.
- ProAm 9y ago
  You can want it, and say it, but not on Twitter and that was the point. He probably got temp banned for violating their Code of Conduct in regards to Hateful Conduct.
  - remarkEon 9y ago
    >He probably got temp banned for violating their Code of Conduct in regards to Hateful Conduct. This is such a garbage standard. It simply amounts to any speech whoever is running the support team that day doesn't like.
  - nodesocket 9y ago
    > He probably got temp banned for violating their Code of Conduct in regards to Hateful Conduct. Nope. It was intentional. Employee's last day.

krapp 9y ago

>If one of those persons was a loved one of your own, would you want him to get the death penalty? Probably, but none of them were Trump's loved ones, so your appeal to emotion is irrelevant in his case. As President, Trump is supposed to respect the rule of law and the rights of American citizens (all of them, even the mass-murdering terrorists) not call for their summary execution in all caps like a rageposting lunatic.

interfixus 9y ago
Other points notwithstanding, Sayfullo Saipov is not an American citizen.
- nodesocket 9y ago
  > Saipov came to the United States in 2010 on a diversity visa, the Department of Homeland Security said. He has since become a legal permanent resident. While not a "citizen" essentially, excluding voting rights.
  - interfixus 9y ago
    So, not a citizen.
    - krapp 9y ago
      Fair enough, then. Is he subject to American laws? Does he have the protection of the same Constitutional and legal rights as any American, including presumption of innocence and a fair trial?
      - interfixus 9y ago
        I have no idea. I am not an American. Merely pointing out that he is not a citizen, which grandparent comment vaguely suggested that he was.
      - creaghpatr 9y ago

brandon272 9y ago

> If one of those persons was a loved one of your own, would you want him to get the death penalty? No, I wouldn't. That seems like an easy way out for them. Why should I have to live a life of pain and suffering from my loss and they don't?