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Narrative killer: Mac unit sales up 10% YoY, revenue up 25% YoY
by IBM 9y ago
Narrative killer: Mac unit sales up 10% YoY, revenue up 25% YoY
- not_that_noob 9y agoAnd iPhone X (exxx not ten) will blow it out of the park. Cook's da man.
- not_that_noob 9y agoGot a lot of Apple haters - I wasn't ripping on Android. Just pointing out the obvious. Why the down vote?
- salmon30salmon 9y agoI assume you were downvoted because the comment is not really in line with what is expected on HN. It only tangentially relates to the parent, and does not add anything substantive to the conversation.
- djrogers 9y agoWhat narrative would that kill?
- IBM 9y agoAll these takes https://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/10/27/new-macbook-pros-and-the-state-of-the-mac/ https://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/10/27/new-macbook-pros-and-the-...
- simonh 9y agoThere’s been constant whining that Apple doesn’t care about the Mac and has abandoned the platform, the line is stagnating and they don’t sell any models anybody wants to buy because they’re all terrible and everybody will buy big ass Windows laptops with proper keyboards, 32GB RAM and an escape key for EMACS. Except for actual customers that are buying Macs by the truckload, that is.
- regularhackerer 9y agoIts kind of sad that professionals will have to look elsewhere for a laptop. At least there is the new thinkpad retro! Oh wait...
- jsolson 9y agoWait, what about an escape key for EMACS? My heavy emacs use is the reason I didn't mind getting the touch bar. It's vim users I'd expect to be annoyed...
- fasquoika 9y agoPretty sure that's the joke
- 2muchcoffeeman 9y agoYeah, I remapped ESC to the caps lock key a long time ago!
- dman 9y agoYes that was Microsoft all the way into the 2000s. Power users are the canary in the coalmine. Once you lose them they are gone. With power users gone your computing problem devolves to creating common denominator apps / platforms. Lack of interesting work eventually catches up with the company since it becomes progressively harder to hire top talent since there is no compelling "mission" or "vision" anymore. Having thought about this, I guess there are different concepts here a. Apple as a business b. Apple as a force that shapes the future of computing By any metric they are doing a great job of a, on the second I think they could do a lot more.
- brianpgordon 9y agoTim Cook mentioned specifically that the Mac growth was driven by China. So keep that in mind.
- valuearb 9y agoBecause?...
- brianpgordon 9y agoBecause it could mean that sophisticated markets are not impressed by the stagnating offering and the only reason the Mac is seeing growth is that people are buying Macs for the first time in developing countries. That being said, they just said on the call that all geographic areas grew by at least 20% in Mac sales so maybe I was reading too much into Tim Cook's earlier comment.
- nihonde 9y agoImplying that China is not a "sophisticated market"?
- brianpgordon 9y agoIt's certainly filled with people who have never used Macs. You have to take that into account when using global growth to try to predict future US growth.
- nihonde 9y agoMac usage is a metric for sophistication? What a silly set of comments. People seem to grossly underestimate China. That hubris will only hurt you in the long run. Half or more of the stuff in those “sophisticated” computers is sourced in China.
- matthewmacleod 9y ago
- dpkonofa 9y agoI'll never understand this. The pattern is the same every year. They announce a product, "journalists" say it's a failure, they sell more units and make more money than ever before, and the cycle repeats. Apple will definitely drop the ball someday but I think people are a little too quick to make that call. I realize most of that is in the never-ending quest for clickbait but still...
- D-Coder 9y agoOh absolutely (and not just journalists, but all the Apple-haters). Every year since at least 1984, "Apple hasn't come out with a new product in _weeks_! They're doooomed!" Every single year. For at least 30 years. "Dooooooomed!"
- clarky07 9y agoIn their defense, it was very nearly doomed for 10-15 of those years :-P But I agree, anyone who has said this since 2007 clearly isn't paying attention. Almost all the people with iPhones are going to keep buying a new iPhone every 2 years for a long long time.
- mangotv 9y agoKondo?
- pjmlp 9y agoIf NeXT had not bought Apple, because that was what actually happened, Apple would be gone by now.
- draw_down 9y agoHa, nothing kills the “Apple is doomed” narrative.