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It's existed for a very long time, but still hasn't fully taken off. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1

• zerr 9y ago
  Does it also have the same health benefits as exercises?
  • kolbe 9y ago
    Depends on the benefit. It will decrease fat, increase strength and increase muscle mass. I don't know about VO2 max or lactic threshold stuff, though.
    • toomanybeersies 9y ago
      Clenbuterol will increase your VO2 max, so will EPO.
      • mjhoyer 9y ago
        will also make your heart rate go through the roof even when sitting still.
  • bagacrap 9y ago
    It (supraphysiological doses of testosterone, meaning more than any human produces naturally) causes cancer, hair loss, interferes with endogenous hormonal function, and entails many other deleterious side effects that exercise does not. It will increase aerobic capacity by increasing red blood cell count but too much added viscosity of the blood also poses a health risk. So this is rather different from "exercise in a pill".
    • lossolo 9y ago
      > causes cancer Source? Because 200 mg of Testosterone E a week is already more than human organism can produce. In study linked above they gave them 600 mg a week. Most professional bodybuilders are doing minimum of 1g of test a week for years. Most of them have heart problems if any from test. Most problems they have are from different compounds like Trenbolone, GH etc. but not testosterone. I don't know any study that links testosterone to be a main reason of developing cancer, that's why I ask for source.
      • JamesBarney 9y ago
        And even if it doesn't have an effect on cancer I imagine it's low enough to be completely swamped by the cardiovascular effects.
      • cgh 9y ago
        Just to add to this, tren (and all other steroids) are essentially testosterone derivatives. "GH" is growth hormone, which is not a steroid. Taking massive amounts of steroids can be a health risk for sure. But as the parent implied, trt-levels of test (200-300 mg/week) are well-tolerated.
      • icelancer 9y ago
        >>Most of them have heart problems if any from test. Most problems they have are from different compounds like Trenbolone, GH etc. but not testosterone. Additionally, they are stacking anabolic steroids with amphetamines and derivatives of such, as well as compounds like clenbuterol, liothyronine sodium, and even dinitrophenol.
    • icelancer 9y ago
      Sources from medical journals would be greatly appreciated here. I strongly suspect you will have a hard time sourcing your claims.
    • gadders 9y ago
      You could always take a SARM like Osterine [1] instead. They don't tend to have the side effects of Testosterone and other steroids with a lot of the benefits (but do your own research). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enobosarm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enobosarm [2] https://blog.bulletproof.com/sarms-increase-muscle-growth-200/ https://blog.bulletproof.com/sarms-increase-muscle-growth-20... (best link I could find without getting lit up by the work firewall for hitting a steroid site)
• romanovcode 9y ago
  Steroids are one of the most used drugs in the world. It taken off pretty well.