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Developer of The Banner Saga when asked if the second game would be on GOG. > sadly once we released DRM Free for The Banner Saga we saw our game get pirated l

Developer of The Banner Saga when asked if the second game would be on GOG. > sadly once we released DRM Free for The Banner Saga we saw our game get pirated like wildfire. Which is something we're keen to avoid as much possible. We haven't given it much thought at this point to be honest when it comes to GoG. https://steamcommunity.com/app/281640/discussions/0/392184522702606796/#c392184522702930550 https://steamcommunity.com/app/281640/discussions/0/39218452...

shmerl 9y ago
Which is a pretty clueless response. Avoiding GOG will only increase such pirating (by decreasing legal sources for the game). Developers should know better.
- imustbeevil 9y ago
  > Avoiding GOG will only increase such pirating (by decreasing legal sources for the game). Until you provide a single source you're not saying anything worth responding to.
  - shmerl 9y ago
    Not sure how those developers measured piracy in general. But piracy is naturally increased by limiting legal sources for buying something. Other developers commented on this very issue, saying that existing DRM increased piracy.
    - imustbeevil 9y ago
      I'm not going to continue this off topic conversation.
      - shmerl 9y ago
        > The new Assassins Creed has been pirated Zero times because they made the DRM as invasive as possible. It was also not bought by people who see this obtrusive nonsense which drains CPU resources and degrades performance as something to avoid. In the end, they only lost sales. I wouldn't call Ubisoft or any other legacy publisher rational. Rather irrational control freaks. Besides, Ubisoft's DRM will be broken, same as all others.
        imustbeevil 9y ago
        See above.
        shmerl 9y ago
        Where did you get data that DRM prevented lost sales? It's vaporware. Your link doesn't show in any way, that if they'd have released it DRM free, they wouldn't have more sales in result. It's boring that you support anti-user methodology like DRM and try to justify it. It's been debunked multiple times.
- megaman22 9y ago
  People really pirate games still? Steam and GoG have made actually paying for games so easy I haven't even thought about it for years. There was a time when you couldn't find most games in a physical store, and sketchy cracked versions on PirateBay or your favorite tracker were the alternative. Of course, I have orders of magnitude more disposable income now than I used to, as well.
  - shmerl 9y ago
    > People really pirate games still? Some do it for sport, especially DRMed ones. I.e. they see DRM as something to break. So the mere presence of DRM is an incentive to pirate for them.

shmerl 9y ago

Which is a pretty clueless response. Avoiding GOG will only increase such pirating (by decreasing legal sources for the game). Developers should know better.

imustbeevil 9y ago
> Avoiding GOG will only increase such pirating (by decreasing legal sources for the game). Until you provide a single source you're not saying anything worth responding to.
- shmerl 9y ago
  Not sure how those developers measured piracy in general. But piracy is naturally increased by limiting legal sources for buying something. Other developers commented on this very issue, saying that existing DRM increased piracy.
  - imustbeevil 9y ago
    I'm not going to continue this off topic conversation.
    - shmerl 9y ago
      > The new Assassins Creed has been pirated Zero times because they made the DRM as invasive as possible. It was also not bought by people who see this obtrusive nonsense which drains CPU resources and degrades performance as something to avoid. In the end, they only lost sales. I wouldn't call Ubisoft or any other legacy publisher rational. Rather irrational control freaks. Besides, Ubisoft's DRM will be broken, same as all others.
      - imustbeevil 9y ago
        See above.
        shmerl 9y ago
        Where did you get data that DRM prevented lost sales? It's vaporware. Your link doesn't show in any way, that if they'd have released it DRM free, they wouldn't have more sales in result. It's boring that you support anti-user methodology like DRM and try to justify it. It's been debunked multiple times.
megaman22 9y ago
People really pirate games still? Steam and GoG have made actually paying for games so easy I haven't even thought about it for years. There was a time when you couldn't find most games in a physical store, and sketchy cracked versions on PirateBay or your favorite tracker were the alternative. Of course, I have orders of magnitude more disposable income now than I used to, as well.
- shmerl 9y ago
  > People really pirate games still? Some do it for sport, especially DRMed ones. I.e. they see DRM as something to break. So the mere presence of DRM is an incentive to pirate for them.