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There's an implicit idea around our culture that the more uncontrolled emotional content that someone communicates, especially anger, the more 'honest' they are
by forapurpose 9y ago
There's an implicit idea around our culture that the more uncontrolled emotional content that someone communicates, especially anger, the more 'honest' they are - I think because it's intimidating, leaving less room for debate; it makes reasoning very difficult, leaving even less room for a rational approach; it's message is of being uncompromising, which also cuts off any thinking or discussion. By eliminating thinking and discussion, it's simple, and I don't mean that in a good way, but that makes it appealing to people too lazy to deal with the necessary complexity of situations and who are not committed to getting the best outcomes. But it's not honest at all and it's not hard to see how it leads to bad results.
Acting out is actually dishonest and it's mostly about a hidden message. It's a failure to recognize and deal with your won frustrations which you then take out on others, usually when an opportunity presents itself to rationalize your behavior - someone does something you perceive as wrong, so they become a justifiable target for the anger that's already there. What I read in the email's message is, 'I'm out of control, I'm not able or willing to mange my emotions, so you better watch out'. That is a poor management and communication technique.
IMHO, a leader or manager should hold their leadership and management work product to the same standard that they hold their subordinates' technical work product. If they want the highest standards for the kernel code, they need to have the highest standards for their communication and other conduct.
A great challenge of being the boss is that there is nobody to hold you to high standards; you have to do it yourself and that's not something people are good at. As they say: Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Clearly, this message could have been communicated much more effectively - while being truly honest and without hidden messages or room for interpretation - if the communicator chose to make an effort.
Finally, if this form of communication is effective, do others communicate to Linus in this manner? Does he ask them to?
- AnthonBerg 9y agoI will never understand why this has been downvoted.
- forgottenpass 9y agoIt's a cliche hacker news comment that adds nothing to the conversation: - Speaks in platitudes about the topic in a way that shows a thin understanding of the context and only sounds smart to people that also aren't familiar with the context. - Armchair psychiatry used to advance a moralizing message. - All over the place while deep in a comment thread, seemingly more interested in hearing themselves talk than carrying on the conversation.
- AnthonBerg 9y agoConversely, I see an insightful take on communication and hierarchy.
- kadenshep 9y agoIs this like an alt account to issue apologia for unpopular comments? You literally went through the comment tree and rehashed your personal opinion on the comment over and over again.
- AnthonBerg 9y agoNo. May I offer proof? I’m not sure what the best way would be. Suggestions?
- forapurpose 9y agoAs the author of the comment in question, I think some of parent comment is fair criticism - that my comment is general and too superficial, without a strong basis in fact and it doesn't contribute much hard knowledge; it's all analysis. Also, it's long. I considered those things myself before I posted it. However, I didn't see how to overcome them; some issues don't lend themselves to strong factual bases, and some are much more nuanced than can be addressed in a few words - issues such as leadership - and yet they still are important enough to discuss. The problems of the world don't always conveniently fit our model of how we prefer to address them. How else could these issues be addressed? > It's a cliche hacker news comment This I strongly disagree with; these issues are rarely addressed with much serious thought and that's one reason I posted it.
- kadenshep 9y agoIt's a maze of generic crap that no one wants to wade through?
- AnthonBerg 9y agoI enjoyed reading it, and grasped meaning in it. What would you call your comment?
- kadenshep 9y agoUpvoted.