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Talked to a guy who worked for [a large tech company] and he said that the company doesn't allow phones to connect to the network if they are more than 1 month

by slyall 9y ago

Talked to a guy who worked for [a large tech company] and he said that the company doesn't allow phones to connect to the network if they are more than 1 month behind security updates. Unfortunately of the Android vendors only Google actually guarantees (let alone actually follows though with) regular security updates for a specific time (2 years of version updates, plus another year of just security). So he and many of his workmates had Google (or Apple) phones. Although since Google phased out their mid-range Nexus line having to pay 3x as much for a Pixel isn't as appealing.

rando444 9y ago
A large tech company allowing cellphones on their internal network sounds extremely bizarre. Cellphones should be on an untrusted/guest wireless connection, if they need access to corporate resources they should access them over the internet or VPN just like they would if they were anywhere else with their phones.
- metilda 9y ago
  Sounds like bad Infosec policies at work. I doubt they have VLANs, everything can likely access everything internally.
  - 2-4-Flinching 9y ago
    I love the egotistical assumption that they have a bad Infosec policy and don't have VLANs based on basically one sentence. Here is one: "They connected computers to their network" The assumed security risk are endless and 100% of companies do it!! Such idiots, to connect a computer to a network!
- 2-4-Flinching 9y ago
  That sounds terrible. That is a crazy amount of bandwidth usage to VPN out and then back into the the network through the same pipe is a waste. Not counting the licenses and even the ability to maintain that many connections at a given time. Going off of the use cases I have actually done. It not hard to setup WPA2 Enterprise with assigned VLAN access, heck you can even assign it based on the device, meaning Joe signs in on his laptop and he gets internal access but when he signs in on his cellphone it goes straight out. Each connection is assigned based on need and checked by the IT department. The OP doesn't even say they are given internal access just network access, which could be straight out to the internet. The majority of cellphones used in my company are VLAN straight to the internet but there are cases where tablets and cellphones need access to server and shares that they are assigned to a VLAN they are on.
  - rando444 9y ago
    I regret mentioning VPN. Most people don't VPN with their phones, it's possible, but most people don't. They use their phone to access their company e-mail and sometimes other services which are open on the internet already. It's a small amount of traffic compared to the cost of trying to maintain an entire separate network just for some one-off use cases, forcing people to sign-in, register their devices, maintain the network, etc. Of course there are special cases for tablets and such, but you'd treat those differently than someone's personal phone. If they were given a connection "straight out to the internet" then it's even more bizarre to require strict regulations about their phones. I see no advantages to letting people's personal phones on a corporate network.
- slyall 9y ago
  I'm not sure which network they use at the office but I think he was mainly talking about reading email.

by slyall 9y ago

rando444 9y ago

A large tech company allowing cellphones on their internal network sounds extremely bizarre. Cellphones should be on an untrusted/guest wireless connection, if they need access to corporate resources they should access them over the internet or VPN just like they would if they were anywhere else with their phones.

metilda 9y ago
Sounds like bad Infosec policies at work. I doubt they have VLANs, everything can likely access everything internally.
- 2-4-Flinching 9y ago
  I love the egotistical assumption that they have a bad Infosec policy and don't have VLANs based on basically one sentence. Here is one: "They connected computers to their network" The assumed security risk are endless and 100% of companies do it!! Such idiots, to connect a computer to a network!
2-4-Flinching 9y ago
That sounds terrible. That is a crazy amount of bandwidth usage to VPN out and then back into the the network through the same pipe is a waste. Not counting the licenses and even the ability to maintain that many connections at a given time. Going off of the use cases I have actually done. It not hard to setup WPA2 Enterprise with assigned VLAN access, heck you can even assign it based on the device, meaning Joe signs in on his laptop and he gets internal access but when he signs in on his cellphone it goes straight out. Each connection is assigned based on need and checked by the IT department. The OP doesn't even say they are given internal access just network access, which could be straight out to the internet. The majority of cellphones used in my company are VLAN straight to the internet but there are cases where tablets and cellphones need access to server and shares that they are assigned to a VLAN they are on.
- rando444 9y ago
  I regret mentioning VPN. Most people don't VPN with their phones, it's possible, but most people don't. They use their phone to access their company e-mail and sometimes other services which are open on the internet already. It's a small amount of traffic compared to the cost of trying to maintain an entire separate network just for some one-off use cases, forcing people to sign-in, register their devices, maintain the network, etc. Of course there are special cases for tablets and such, but you'd treat those differently than someone's personal phone. If they were given a connection "straight out to the internet" then it's even more bizarre to require strict regulations about their phones. I see no advantages to letting people's personal phones on a corporate network.
slyall 9y ago
I'm not sure which network they use at the office but I think he was mainly talking about reading email.