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Not to mention Red can cross compile for multiple OSes and the parse dialect that is basically generalized, readable regular expressions. My personal theory wh

by hdhzy 9y ago

Not to mention Red can cross compile for multiple OSes and the parse dialect that is basically generalized, readable regular expressions. My personal theory why Rebol/Red didn't succeed in the mainstream is steep learning curve, it's hard to discover how to do things if you haven't already done some substantial programming work in it. While built-in help is good you need to know what you're looking for. (Delphi had better help in this matter, with examples etc.). By the way I wonder why Pecan's post is [dead], it doesn't seem to be violating any rule.

exikyut 9y ago
Open it (click the duration), and click vouch. Arc has some (necessarily-)undocumented flagging code, and it frequently backfires. The worst-case scenario is when you open the account in question and every single comment is grey... it hurts to see. (In that case, the account itself has been flagged. Not quite the same as reddit's shadowbanning, but only technically not the same.) It's bittersweet that the moderation here is paid: there are AFAIK only two people (but don't quote me on that). There were some hazy plans to give some users fractionally elevated capabilities at some point, but it just hasn't happened yet.
- hdhzy 9y ago
  Thanks a lot for this tip! Actually I'm amazed on how little workforce is necessary to keep this place running. I'm browsing with showdead on and rarely see the flagging backfires like this one.
spinningarrow 9y ago
> didn’t succeed in the mainstream Is that true of Red? I was playing with it the other day and it looked really promising, and I was under the impression that it’s still quite new and hasn’t reached 1.0 (my point is that it might not be at a stage where we can write it off).
- throwaway7645 9y ago
  Yea, sorry bout that. Red isn't 1.0 yet and I have very high hopes for it. I meant just Rebol (ancestor of Red) in my earlier post and corrected it.
- hdhzy 9y ago
  > it’s still quite new and hasn’t reached 1.0 According to the main page [0] the project was unveiled 6 years ago. For comparison Rust (a random example) started 7 years ago [1] but compare results for "Rust" and "Red/Rebol" on Algolia [2] (sorry no deep links). It's clear Red is niche. I'm not writing it off. It's definitely one of most interesting languages and runtimes but it's super hard to capture people's attention nowadays when you don't have support of large companies (Go, Rust, .NET). [0]: http://www.red-lang.org/search?updated-max=2011-03-29T15:38:00%2B02:00&max-results=7&start=40&by-date=false&m=1 http://www.red-lang.org/search?updated-max=2011-03-29T15:38:... [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language) [2]: https://hn.algolia.com/ https://hn.algolia.com/
  - spinningarrow 9y ago
    Hmm, you're right. I didn't realise it was 6 years old!

by hdhzy 9y ago

exikyut 9y ago

Open it (click the duration), and click vouch. Arc has some (necessarily-)undocumented flagging code, and it frequently backfires. The worst-case scenario is when you open the account in question and every single comment is grey... it hurts to see. (In that case, the account itself has been flagged. Not quite the same as reddit's shadowbanning, but only technically not the same.) It's bittersweet that the moderation here is paid: there are AFAIK only two people (but don't quote me on that). There were some hazy plans to give some users fractionally elevated capabilities at some point, but it just hasn't happened yet.

hdhzy 9y ago
Thanks a lot for this tip! Actually I'm amazed on how little workforce is necessary to keep this place running. I'm browsing with showdead on and rarely see the flagging backfires like this one.

spinningarrow 9y ago

> didn’t succeed in the mainstream Is that true of Red? I was playing with it the other day and it looked really promising, and I was under the impression that it’s still quite new and hasn’t reached 1.0 (my point is that it might not be at a stage where we can write it off).

throwaway7645 9y ago
Yea, sorry bout that. Red isn't 1.0 yet and I have very high hopes for it. I meant just Rebol (ancestor of Red) in my earlier post and corrected it.
hdhzy 9y ago
> it’s still quite new and hasn’t reached 1.0 According to the main page [0] the project was unveiled 6 years ago. For comparison Rust (a random example) started 7 years ago [1] but compare results for "Rust" and "Red/Rebol" on Algolia [2] (sorry no deep links). It's clear Red is niche. I'm not writing it off. It's definitely one of most interesting languages and runtimes but it's super hard to capture people's attention nowadays when you don't have support of large companies (Go, Rust, .NET). [0]: http://www.red-lang.org/search?updated-max=2011-03-29T15:38:00%2B02:00&max-results=7&start=40&by-date=false&m=1 http://www.red-lang.org/search?updated-max=2011-03-29T15:38:... [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language) [2]: https://hn.algolia.com/ https://hn.algolia.com/
- spinningarrow 9y ago
  Hmm, you're right. I didn't realise it was 6 years old!