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I have bought intel for the last 15-20 years, however my next workstation/gaming computer will have a threadripper of some sort. I have never been a fanboy of

by tyfon 9y ago

I have bought intel for the last 15-20 years, however my next workstation/gaming computer will have a threadripper of some sort. I have never been a fanboy of either but for my use case it's a nobrainer right now. Even if I was a fanboy I'd have a hard time justifying getting an intel chip.

agumonkey 9y ago
I don't have desktops, I'm waiting to see their laptop CPUs.
- digi_owl 9y ago
  https://www.anandtech.com/show/11964/ryzen-mobile-is-launched-amd-apus-for-laptops-with-vega-and-updated-zen https://www.anandtech.com/show/11964/ryzen-mobile-is-launche...
  - tyfon 9y ago
    I suspect this will go into the next generation of consoles too. Both xbox and ps4 (also pro and x version) contain the old jaguar core from amd. But what's up with the single channel ram in the ibm one? Both of the others have dual-channel.
    - digi_owl 9y ago
      Yeah that AMD managed to land the supply contract for both Sony and Microsoft is a big deal.
  - darklajid 9y ago
    I'm commenting on these things right now because I still didn't buy a laptop and need one soon/now. There's no ryzen based laptop atm (regional limits might apply). One Asus gaming laptop that is basically a desktop that you can carry around, with effort, and that has no battery life to speak of. Not available here. Two Lenovo laptops (Thinkpad A series and Ideapad), both seem restricted in terms of CPU (aka not the 2700), don't come with the latest GPU or memory (single channel or unknown or limited to 8 GB). None of these is available. The HP x360. Fancy, limited to 8 GB as it seems. Also doesn't come with the latest APU (only announced for 2500U). Not available yet. The Acer Swift 3. Limited to 8 GB as far as I can tell. Aaaand not available. Bottom line: You cannot get a laptop with either the mobile chips or the monster gaming thing now. They exist somewhere, but not here. Most of the announced devices have crippling limitations (memory) and are - for me, someone who deeply sympathizes with AMD - basically DOA. Which probably reinforces the manufacturer's opinion that they should just create Intel based products...? I want one. I can't get any of these. All of these are kinda bad / quite limited / would be a "I want them for the AMD label, although they suck in some ways" decision.
    - snvzz 9y ago
      I'm on a similar situation. I'm looking for a smallish, throw-into-any-backback-and-carry-everywhere laptop. The new chips are interesting, but the few launch devices all have one flaw or another. Fortunately, I can live without such a laptop, for now. I'll just keep an eye out for updates.
old-gregg 9y ago
I thought so too. But when I looked into typical software engineering workloads, I found that i9-7900x soundly beats the 16-core Threadripper in nearly all compiling/linking/running tests workloads because of the 20% per-core advantage. It also ended up being cheaper because x299 motherboards cost less.

by tyfon 9y ago

agumonkey 9y ago

I don't have desktops, I'm waiting to see their laptop CPUs.

digi_owl 9y ago
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11964/ryzen-mobile-is-launched-amd-apus-for-laptops-with-vega-and-updated-zen https://www.anandtech.com/show/11964/ryzen-mobile-is-launche...
- tyfon 9y ago
  I suspect this will go into the next generation of consoles too. Both xbox and ps4 (also pro and x version) contain the old jaguar core from amd. But what's up with the single channel ram in the ibm one? Both of the others have dual-channel.
  - digi_owl 9y ago
    Yeah that AMD managed to land the supply contract for both Sony and Microsoft is a big deal.
- darklajid 9y ago
  I'm commenting on these things right now because I still didn't buy a laptop and need one soon/now. There's no ryzen based laptop atm (regional limits might apply). One Asus gaming laptop that is basically a desktop that you can carry around, with effort, and that has no battery life to speak of. Not available here. Two Lenovo laptops (Thinkpad A series and Ideapad), both seem restricted in terms of CPU (aka not the 2700), don't come with the latest GPU or memory (single channel or unknown or limited to 8 GB). None of these is available. The HP x360. Fancy, limited to 8 GB as it seems. Also doesn't come with the latest APU (only announced for 2500U). Not available yet. The Acer Swift 3. Limited to 8 GB as far as I can tell. Aaaand not available. Bottom line: You cannot get a laptop with either the mobile chips or the monster gaming thing now. They exist somewhere, but not here. Most of the announced devices have crippling limitations (memory) and are - for me, someone who deeply sympathizes with AMD - basically DOA. Which probably reinforces the manufacturer's opinion that they should just create Intel based products...? I want one. I can't get any of these. All of these are kinda bad / quite limited / would be a "I want them for the AMD label, although they suck in some ways" decision.
  - snvzz 9y ago
    I'm on a similar situation. I'm looking for a smallish, throw-into-any-backback-and-carry-everywhere laptop. The new chips are interesting, but the few launch devices all have one flaw or another. Fortunately, I can live without such a laptop, for now. I'll just keep an eye out for updates.

old-gregg 9y ago

I thought so too. But when I looked into typical software engineering workloads, I found that i9-7900x soundly beats the 16-core Threadripper in nearly all compiling/linking/running tests workloads because of the 20% per-core advantage. It also ended up being cheaper because x299 motherboards cost less.