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> This is not Christian. Christianity is about a guy, Jesus Christ, who came to say what is the Good. (John 14,6 "I am the way, the truth and the life") That's

> This is not Christian. Christianity is about a guy, Jesus Christ, who came to say what is the Good. (John 14,6 "I am the way, the truth and the life") That's the view of Jesus' later followers, not of the man himself. The John passage isn't especially reliable. [0] Also, you're forgetting what Matthew and Luke both reported that Jesus said about just what's needed for salvation: <blockquote> 25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.” </blockquote> (From Luke 10:25-37, emphasis added, footnotes omitted [1].) [0] http://www.questioningchristian.com/2006/05/synoptic_christ.html http://www.questioningchristian.com/2006/05/synoptic_christ.... (self-cite) Scroll down to "Problem: The Passage of Time." Tl;dr: From what's known about the author of the Fourth Gospel, his self-promoting account, decades after the facts and at odds with other accounts, simply isn't credible. [1] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37 (the parable of the Good Samaritan)

zakk 9y ago
> That's the view of Jesus' later followers You are absolutely right. But the Catholic faith is not about a literal interpretation of the Bible, is about the so-called depositum fidei, i.e. how the Catholic Church holds and transmits the teachings of Jesus Christ. You may say that all Catholicism is the interpretation given by "Jesus' later followers". Of course, when discussing Catholicism, I was implicitly using the Catholic Church's interpretation of Jesus's sayings. It would interesting to discuss if what he meant is what the Church now means. > 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” Sure. My point there was that faith in God is needed for salvation. It's not just mercy and kindness.

zakk 9y ago

> That's the view of Jesus' later followers You are absolutely right. But the Catholic faith is not about a literal interpretation of the Bible, is about the so-called depositum fidei, i.e. how the Catholic Church holds and transmits the teachings of Jesus Christ. You may say that all Catholicism is the interpretation given by "Jesus' later followers". Of course, when discussing Catholicism, I was implicitly using the Catholic Church's interpretation of Jesus's sayings. It would interesting to discuss if what he meant is what the Church now means. > 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” Sure. My point there was that faith in God is needed for salvation. It's not just mercy and kindness.