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I am surprised with c# vs java as well, but they are close. I code c++, javascript and java these days, and i greatly miss my c# days. Say what you will about

I am surprised with c# vs java as well, but they are close. I code c++, javascript and java these days, and i greatly miss my c# days. Say what you will about microsoft, but i consider C# and the default development environment in vs superior compared to what's available for other languages. That with Resharper back in the day was the bomb.

smithkl42 9y ago
Heck, still is. C# is a nice, pragmatic, practical language, and the VS/Resharper combination can't be beat anywhere, period. I love how lazy it lets me be.
- tehlike 9y ago
  Funny enough, I developed libraries mostly, in both for server use (nhibernate/castle), and for client side use (windows phone), and i can say pretty confidently that development environment for windows phone 8 was far superior to what android had, too. Android was a platform for years while wp8 was really new. Microsoft knows how to create developer tools, and languages.
  - dep_b 9y ago
    It's an ugly secret that WP in many regards was the best platform out there. If it was about 90's desktop operating systems it would be BeOS out of the options Windows 98, MacOS 8 or BeOS. But it was not only late to market but also Microsoft's PHB's managed it pretty ugly.
osullivj 9y ago
MS's devenv is excellent, and IMHO doesn't get the recognition it deserves. Folk often talk of Windows and Office as the twin pillars of MS, but I'd say Visual Studio is the third pillar. MS has always done a great job of dev relations with MSDN, cheap or free tools, sample code and excellent blogs like Raymond Chen's Old New Thing. JetBrain's IntelliJ and PyCharm, as well as Firebug and the Chrome debugger have improved things for devs outside the MS ecosystem, but MS are still ahead. Mixed language debugging in Visual Studio still amazes me. As a Python C++ dev I'd love to have a Python IDE that would enable me to debug C++ .pyds.

smithkl42 9y ago

Heck, still is. C# is a nice, pragmatic, practical language, and the VS/Resharper combination can't be beat anywhere, period. I love how lazy it lets me be.

tehlike 9y ago
Funny enough, I developed libraries mostly, in both for server use (nhibernate/castle), and for client side use (windows phone), and i can say pretty confidently that development environment for windows phone 8 was far superior to what android had, too. Android was a platform for years while wp8 was really new. Microsoft knows how to create developer tools, and languages.
- dep_b 9y ago
  It's an ugly secret that WP in many regards was the best platform out there. If it was about 90's desktop operating systems it would be BeOS out of the options Windows 98, MacOS 8 or BeOS. But it was not only late to market but also Microsoft's PHB's managed it pretty ugly.

osullivj 9y ago

MS's devenv is excellent, and IMHO doesn't get the recognition it deserves. Folk often talk of Windows and Office as the twin pillars of MS, but I'd say Visual Studio is the third pillar. MS has always done a great job of dev relations with MSDN, cheap or free tools, sample code and excellent blogs like Raymond Chen's Old New Thing. JetBrain's IntelliJ and PyCharm, as well as Firebug and the Chrome debugger have improved things for devs outside the MS ecosystem, but MS are still ahead. Mixed language debugging in Visual Studio still amazes me. As a Python C++ dev I'd love to have a Python IDE that would enable me to debug C++ .pyds.