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> most custom-built mailing list systems don't have it, requiring to log in or just not working Does this violate CAN-SPAM? https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/b

> most custom-built mailing list systems don't have it, requiring to log in or just not working Does this violate CAN-SPAM? https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can... > You can’t ... make the recipient take any step other than sending a reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website as a condition for honoring an opt-out request

Andrenid 9y ago
Facebook themselves require you to log in to unsubscribe from emails. If you've disabled or deleted your account, you still get spammed daily, and there's quite literally zero way to unsubscribe.
- linkregister 9y ago
  If you’re on Gmail, you should mark it as spam, that’s what it is. You’ll also end up blocking that address. If you run your own email server, black hole the Facebook.com domain.
  - tyingq 9y ago
    I think most of Facebook's email comes from facebookmail.com.
vm 9y ago
LinkedIn has been one of the most infuriating CAN-SPAM violators for years. So many startups do too. "Growth hacking" is probably a net negative to society based on all the spam it produces.
madeofpalk 9y ago
CAN-SPAM only applies to promotional/marketing emails.
mancerayder 9y ago
It's sometimes grey. One example I can give is Expedia, which provides me with a monthly 'Your [Month] Statement is Ready'-type of thing, even though I've maybe used the service once in my life to buy airplane tickets. You can't unsubscribe since it's not 'marketing' and e-mailing support didn't help either. Yet, it's marketing, because they offer promotional links ("earn free yadda yadda") and has Citi advertising below it. Another one is 'Oh, wow, you've been getting some profile views!' that LinkedIn and other like to do. That's indirect promotion of their services. Couched as a reminder. Today, after not logging into Facebook for a while, received an e-mail that someone commented on their profiles. Another of the same. It can be argued that these is all a form of promotion, but this would take a less-business-friendly political climate to accomplish, if you ask me.
hashmal 9y ago
"if people start to complain about it, we'll just say we didn't know and that we're sorry" -- my former boss

Andrenid 9y ago

Facebook themselves require you to log in to unsubscribe from emails. If you've disabled or deleted your account, you still get spammed daily, and there's quite literally zero way to unsubscribe.

linkregister 9y ago
If you’re on Gmail, you should mark it as spam, that’s what it is. You’ll also end up blocking that address. If you run your own email server, black hole the Facebook.com domain.
- tyingq 9y ago
  I think most of Facebook's email comes from facebookmail.com.

vm 9y ago

LinkedIn has been one of the most infuriating CAN-SPAM violators for years. So many startups do too. "Growth hacking" is probably a net negative to society based on all the spam it produces.

madeofpalk 9y ago

CAN-SPAM only applies to promotional/marketing emails.

mancerayder 9y ago

It's sometimes grey. One example I can give is Expedia, which provides me with a monthly 'Your [Month] Statement is Ready'-type of thing, even though I've maybe used the service once in my life to buy airplane tickets. You can't unsubscribe since it's not 'marketing' and e-mailing support didn't help either. Yet, it's marketing, because they offer promotional links ("earn free yadda yadda") and has Citi advertising below it. Another one is 'Oh, wow, you've been getting some profile views!' that LinkedIn and other like to do. That's indirect promotion of their services. Couched as a reminder. Today, after not logging into Facebook for a while, received an e-mail that someone commented on their profiles. Another of the same. It can be argued that these is all a form of promotion, but this would take a less-business-friendly political climate to accomplish, if you ask me.

hashmal 9y ago

"if people start to complain about it, we'll just say we didn't know and that we're sorry" -- my former boss