> If the drivers of these machines are unable to "dodge" or "stop" appropriately, it is their fault if someone is hurt. Yes, and I don't give two shakes about

> If the drivers of these machines are unable to "dodge" or "stop" appropriately, it is their fault if someone is hurt. Yes, and I don't give two shakes about who's right or who's at fault of the result is sending another car across the double yellow and killing me or my family. Listen, I get that it feels great to feel like you have the moral authority to tell us how cyclist aren't actively harming anyone but they are creating situations(large deltas in speed, cars having to pass) where there is a higher chance of a serious collision. Unless you're telling me that there's no statistical difference of collisions when 5mph bicycles are on 55mph highways? FWIW they're building a separate bike path along large sections of 101 by Port Angeles which is the right way to address this, and I fully support that. The idea that having a large delta in speed on a highway doesn't contribute to accidents however is absurd.