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That is not problem of Mailchimp, it's problem of culture and "best practices". It's really annoying and it became annoying long before this change. I receive
by ungzd 9y ago
That is not problem of Mailchimp, it's problem of culture and "best practices". It's really annoying and it became annoying long before this change.
I receive lots of such emails not only from Mailchimp. At least Mailchimp has one-click unsubscribing, most custom-built mailing list systems don't have it, requiring to log in or just not working.
The problem with Mailchimp is:
- Spam filters work mediocre, despite AI hype. I think they are still based on linear regression on bag of words or something like that. Instead Gmail blocks your server if it sends mail for the first time instead of being large company's server that already sent 1e100 emails.
- Mailchimp exploits this. You can't send email on your own and have to buy their service. It also spreads additional FUD that you must use it, otherwise all your mail goes to spam.
- Gmail treats Mailchimp as privileged sender so if I mark promotional emails from hottest startups as spam, new similar emails are not sent to spam folder.
- Hottest startups know this and subscribe you to all their mailing lists each time they got your email.
- stefan69 9y agoOne workaround is to use disposable email addresses when signing up to anything online, like https://forward.cat https://forward.cat
- xster 9y agoWhy not spamdecoy.net? It does the same thing and you never give your real email to anyone (though forward cat is open source so it's probably ok), and you don't have to set up anything before you use the temporary email.
- djrogers 9y ago> (though forward cat is open source so it's probably ok) Curious about this - how can you have an 'open-source' service? I'm not compiling or running the software, and I have no idea what their software is actually doing because there's no way to verify that it's the same as what's been open-sourced...
- JeanMarcS 9y agoAs I run my own mail server, what I do is always creating an alias, usually named after the website I subscribe. Like expedia@mydomain.com for example. This way I can stop unwanted mail if unsubscribe does'nt work by deleting the alias. It also help to see who is selling your email. For example, some years ago, I had the problem with bitdefender, as I subscribed as a reseller (!). I explained what I thought about it to my sell representative, who couldn't find a decent explanation. And stop selling their product. And destroy the alias.
- lucasverra 9y agotempmail.de (http://tempmail.de/ http://tempmail.de/) do not ask you for your real email adress
- makmanalp 9y ago> most custom-built mailing list systems don't have it, requiring to log in or just not working Does this violate CAN-SPAM? https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can... > You can’t ... make the recipient take any step other than sending a reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website as a condition for honoring an opt-out request
- Andrenid 9y agoFacebook themselves require you to log in to unsubscribe from emails. If you've disabled or deleted your account, you still get spammed daily, and there's quite literally zero way to unsubscribe.
- linkregister 9y agoIf you’re on Gmail, you should mark it as spam, that’s what it is. You’ll also end up blocking that address. If you run your own email server, black hole the Facebook.com domain.
- tyingq 9y agoI think most of Facebook's email comes from facebookmail.com.
- vm 9y agoLinkedIn has been one of the most infuriating CAN-SPAM violators for years. So many startups do too. "Growth hacking" is probably a net negative to society based on all the spam it produces.
- madeofpalk 9y agoCAN-SPAM only applies to promotional/marketing emails.
- mancerayder 9y agoIt's sometimes grey. One example I can give is Expedia, which provides me with a monthly 'Your [Month] Statement is Ready'-type of thing, even though I've maybe used the service once in my life to buy airplane tickets. You can't unsubscribe since it's not 'marketing' and e-mailing support didn't help either. Yet, it's marketing, because they offer promotional links ("earn free yadda yadda") and has Citi advertising below it. Another one is 'Oh, wow, you've been getting some profile views!' that LinkedIn and other like to do. That's indirect promotion of their services. Couched as a reminder. Today, after not logging into Facebook for a while, received an e-mail that someone commented on their profiles. Another of the same. It can be argued that these is all a form of promotion, but this would take a less-business-friendly political climate to accomplish, if you ask me.