Not sure it was really about either. It's really about what experiences led him to make the decisions he made both in deciding a new language was needed and wh

Not sure it was really about either. It's really about what experiences led him to make the decisions he made both in deciding a new language was needed and what attributes the language should have. Clearly the decisions were coloured by his experiences of C++, Java and Common Lisp. But they do appeared much more affected by his views on information structure, flow and evolution.