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I disagree with this, and something doesn't quite feel right.... It's an interesting meta look at this idea that prostitute has a correlation with rape, or sexu

I disagree with this, and something doesn't quite feel right.... It's an interesting meta look at this idea that prostitute has a correlation with rape, or sexual assault crimes in general, but I don't buy it. Correlation is not the same as causation. It also seems to imply that men have this urge to have sex that if given an "outlet" through prostitution, means they won't go and rape someone.

berbec 9y ago
This could be a case of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc but I assume the data researchers know the possibility as well and wouldn't publish unless they could defend the counter-argument of "How do you know the two are related". I'm not saying that we should go out and let there be a McSluts on every corner, but this sort of data brings to light interesting ripple effects of decriminalization.
jabot 9y ago
There are two kinds of men that are relevant when talking about causation here: - Those that do not rape as long as they can buy sex. - Those that do rape when they can buy sex. In my humble opinion, it is rather likely that there are more in the former than in the latter category, thus I would think that causation is plausible here. On the "something doesn't quite feel right" thing - do you have an emotional reaction to this topic?
gozur88 9y ago
>It also seems to imply that men have this urge to have sex that if given an "outlet" through prostitution, means they won't go and rape someone. Yes, and? I suspect quite a few men not able to get sex any other way are capable of rape.
jacknews 9y ago
"men have this urge to have sex" Well I think there is truth in this. I notice that some women make arguments that downplay or are unaware of how strong that urge can be in some cases.
xelxebar 9y ago
"I disagree with this..." This is totally of topic, but it kind of weirds me to see this kind of response so often. I just don't get the impetus to sort things into Agree vs. Disagree bins. Naively, we're all working with a paucity of data here and should expect a turbulence of ideas on the matter. To your point in particular, one might pithily retort, "correlation also isn't not causation." It's hard to tell either way at this point, so what exactly are we doing by agreeing or disagreeing with... what exactly? Forgive me if that sounded like an attack. It's totally not intended that way. I've just been getting confused by the "I agree/disagree..." language recently and thought I'd throw it out there.

berbec 9y ago

This could be a case of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc but I assume the data researchers know the possibility as well and wouldn't publish unless they could defend the counter-argument of "How do you know the two are related". I'm not saying that we should go out and let there be a McSluts on every corner, but this sort of data brings to light interesting ripple effects of decriminalization.

jabot 9y ago

There are two kinds of men that are relevant when talking about causation here: - Those that do not rape as long as they can buy sex. - Those that do rape when they can buy sex. In my humble opinion, it is rather likely that there are more in the former than in the latter category, thus I would think that causation is plausible here. On the "something doesn't quite feel right" thing - do you have an emotional reaction to this topic?

gozur88 9y ago

>It also seems to imply that men have this urge to have sex that if given an "outlet" through prostitution, means they won't go and rape someone. Yes, and? I suspect quite a few men not able to get sex any other way are capable of rape.

jacknews 9y ago

"men have this urge to have sex" Well I think there is truth in this. I notice that some women make arguments that downplay or are unaware of how strong that urge can be in some cases.

xelxebar 9y ago

"I disagree with this..." This is totally of topic, but it kind of weirds me to see this kind of response so often. I just don't get the impetus to sort things into Agree vs. Disagree bins. Naively, we're all working with a paucity of data here and should expect a turbulence of ideas on the matter. To your point in particular, one might pithily retort, "correlation also isn't not causation." It's hard to tell either way at this point, so what exactly are we doing by agreeing or disagreeing with... what exactly? Forgive me if that sounded like an attack. It's totally not intended that way. I've just been getting confused by the "I agree/disagree..." language recently and thought I'd throw it out there.