> They tend to be more rigorous and also take longer so again, it's a case-by-case basis thing I'm not sure if we're taking away the same things from these stu

> They tend to be more rigorous and also take longer so again, it's a case-by-case basis thing I'm not sure if we're taking away the same things from these studies, as their whole conclusion is it actually takes less time and costs less, due to early wins in quality. The papers claim it's not a case-by-case thing.